A Professional referee for play of final

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 21 Jun 2021, 19:09

I Think for a division that has mainly full time professional football teams in it, should have professional full time referees, if not for league games definitely for the play off final, and not a part time ref. This is make or break for teams and yet a part time ref was in charge of such a big game, and with so much money riding on that ref, BT sport where at the game yesterday so could that not have been used like VAR to assist with decisions in such an important game that is make or break,this really needs to be looked in too for all future play off finals, so come on National league use a professional referee in the play off final and use the live tv coverage for replays to assist in important decisions, to all clubs in the national league this could effect your club in finals to come. It won’t help us now but it could be the rise of your club and not in the hands of a part time ref.

North Curry House · Post by **North Curry House** » 21 Jun 2021, 22:10

They are ALL professional referees.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 22 Jun 2021, 07:58

North Curry House wrote: 21 Jun 2021, 22:10 They are ALL professional referees.

No I am afraid not Simon Mather works as a supermarket team leader to one of the big chains. that’s his full time job not a full time ref.

standupsitdown · Post by **standupsitdown** » 22 Jun 2021, 08:26

One of the problems is that referees won't talk to their linesmen. They make an instant decision but for both of these goals they could have talked to the linesman and made a more considered decision based on two views.

I agree that with the importance of this game a top referee should be appointed.

portugull · Post by **portugull** » 22 Jun 2021, 16:54

He works in a Supermarket and they give him a Play Off Final.

This is becoming more of a farce with each day that passes.

Matches like this need a Top Referee and I hope this farce NEVER happens again and lessons will be learnt by the National League.

Poolie87 · Post by **Poolie87** » 23 Jun 2021, 02:08

Both teams had the same referee. Same pitch. Same ball, etc.
Bad decisions both ways.
It happens.

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 23 Jun 2021, 08:39

North Curry House wrote: 21 Jun 2021, 22:10 They are ALL professional referees.

Wrong.

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 23 Jun 2021, 08:39

Poolie87 wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 02:08 Both teams had the same referee. Same pitch. Same ball, etc.
Bad decisions both ways.
It happens.

Er, like what?

Poolie87 · Post by **Poolie87** » 23 Jun 2021, 13:27

SuperNickyWroe wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 08:39 Er, like what?

As you will see on another post. I have said that the decisions went against you on the day.
I apologised for the minority of our fans and praised yours, and your club.
Also, wished you good luck in the new season.

It will hurt for a while. But you will get over it.

Post by **happytorq** » 23 Jun 2021, 15:05

SuperNickyWroe wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 08:39 Er, like what?

There were a few times where the ref gave a throw-in the wrong way, and I remember one occasion where we got a corner and probably shoudn't've.

I would imagine that if you were to forensically examine the game, the number of decision that were wrong were very similar on both sides; it's just that the ones that went against us arguably cost us the game.

that's what I mean when I say that the ref was simply inept. Not everything has to have some sort of huge conspiracy around it.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 23 Jun 2021, 15:24

Poolie87 wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 13:27 As you will see on another post. I have said that the decisions went against you on the day.
I apologised for the minority of our fans and praised yours, and your club.
Also, wished you good luck in the new season.

hurt for a while. But you will get over it.

This is meant for all play off finals to come in the national league, nearly all teams in the national league are full time professional clubs,
And yet the national league uses a part Time ref for a big money game, so this may not affect you at the moment but if you are relegated in time, this could effect you. My point is also BT sport where at the game and will be for next few years, so why could that not be used as VAR. you must have watched the highlights and saw what the whole country saw. So come on national league use a full time professional Referee And use the live replays to help a ref in a game that has so much riding on it.

Poolie87 · Post by **Poolie87** » 23 Jun 2021, 16:32

Jpr wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 15:24

Yes, i get that. But we both had the same referee. We both didn’t have VAR. Just like for the last 100 years.

gullsgullsgulls · Post by **gullsgullsgulls** » 23 Jun 2021, 19:09

Poolie - go and enjoy your promotion.

You must have better things to do that partake in our self-destructive moaning.

It’s a natural stage of the grieving process.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 24 Jun 2021, 15:22

Hi gullsgullsgulls and yes poolie enjoy your promotion

Gullsgullsgulls this is not self destructive moaning, when this league was formed some years ago the majority of teams in it where part time teams, but up to this modern day apart from a couple of teams now all are full time professional football clubs, and going back 100years ago the amount of money was not there also. BT sport have only come on to the scene recently to cover the final. So with this should a professional ref not take charge of the final the top game to come from the national league the Jewel in the crown and BT sport could provide A type of VAR. I know are time has been and gone and good luck to Hartlepool but this is to all the teams that will be in play off finals to come. This final needs a full time ref and Bt sport replays used as VAR this is the future and not the past.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 24 Jun 2021, 16:18

standupsitdown wrote: 22 Jun 2021, 08:26 One of the problems is that referees won't talk to their linesmen. They make an instant decision but for both of these goals they could have talked to the linesman and made a more considered decision based on two views.

I agree that with the importance of this game a top referee should be appointed.

Thank you standupsitdown, I hope other club forums read this and ask the same question WHY IS A PART TIME REF IN CHARGE OFF THE FINAL, the national league needs to catch up with modern times, or a part time ref will still be used in your final to come, And that’s not good enough this will effect the finalist next year and the year after if it’s not changed. The whole standard of reffing in this league ain’t great. But this one step is a big step for your professional football club.

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