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A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:19
by yellowforever
I thought it'd be useful to use a few stats to compare the two managers' records this season, considering that Hargreaves has managed enough games to have sufficient amounts of data.

Games Managed
Hargreaves - 19
Knill - 24

Games Won
Hargreaves - 6
Knill - 5

Games Drawn
Hargreaves - 1
Knill - 7

Games Lost
Hargreaves - 12
Knill - 12

Win Rate
Hargreaves - 32%
Knill - 21%

Goals Scored
Hargreaves - 14
Knill - 24

Average Goals Scored Per Game
Hargreaves - 0.74
Knill - 1.00

Goals Against
Hargreaves - 21
Knill - 40

Average Goals Conceded Per Game
Hargreaves - 1.11
Knill - 1.67

Average Points Per Game
Hargreaves - 1.00
Knill - 0.92

Points
Hargreaves - 19
Knill - 22

Final Points If At Club All Season
Hargreaves - 48
Knill - 44

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:33
by Rjc70
Interesting. And good work. Both effectively gave us relegation form, but I sense hector and stefano may up the ante after these revelations. Careful what you may have started.

Ling, of course, was better than the pair of them, but Yeoman and Courts done good today. :goal:

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:36
by Forest gull
Couldnt give a damn on the stats, its the next two weekends that matter, nowt else

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:49
by AustrianAndyGull
Forest gull wrote:Couldnt give a damn on the stats, its the next two weekends that matter, nowt else
Surely another Yorkshireman! :)

Great work Yellowforever but I'm with FG!

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 05:44
by hector
yellowforever wrote:I thought it'd be useful to use a few stats to compare the two managers' records this season, considering that Hargreaves has managed enough games to have sufficient amounts of data.

Games Managed
Hargreaves - 19
Knill - 24

Games Won
Hargreaves - 6
Knill - 5

Games Drawn
Hargreaves - 1
Knill - 7

Games Lost
Hargreaves - 12
Knill - 12

Win Rate
Hargreaves - 32%
Knill - 21%

Goals Scored
Hargreaves - 14
Knill - 24

Average Goals Scored Per Game
Hargreaves - 0.74
Knill - 1.00

Goals Against
Hargreaves - 21
Knill - 40

Average Goals Conceded Per Game
Hargreaves - 1.11
Knill - 1.67

Average Points Per Game
Hargreaves - 1.00
Knill - 0.92

Points
Hargreaves - 19
Knill - 22

Final Points If At Club All Season
Hargreaves - 48
Knill - 44
Very interesting but whilst it doesn't excuse the record of Hargreaves, it sort of blows out of the water the theory of some Knill revisionists that we should have stuck with him. What it shows is things would be just as bad or more likely worse.

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 06:18
by stefano
Interesting although it would have been better to wait until the actual end of the season.

Remember Mr Hargreaves hasn't yet won 2 games in a row. Mr Knill did!

Mind you I'm daft enough to think CH will win 3 in a row sending Wycombe and Northampton down! ;-)

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 09:29
by kevgull
I guess that stats show 2 very poor managers.

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 10:35
by SuperNickyWroe
kevgull wrote:I guess that stats show 2 very poor managers.
kev you're a genius.

with analysis like that you should be at the top of the tree in law enforcement. :rofl:

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 11:18
by kevgull
SuperNickyWroe wrote: kev you're a genius.

with analysis like that you should be at the top of the tree in law enforcement. :rofl:

Sharp as a Button and as Bright as a knife.

You just can't learn it! :)

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 12:22
by Colorado Gull
Very interesting stats and thank you for the work you put into that yellowforever.

Going into the last two games, stats don't have any significance. We have to do one thing.....WIN! We need other teams to lose of course, but we must win.

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 12:43
by Glostergull
SuperNickyWroe wrote: kev you're a genius.

with analysis like that you should be at the top of the tree in law enforcement. :rofl:
How do you know he isn't. He could be a secret policeman with special brance. :lol:

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 18:23
by SuperNickyWroe
Glostergull wrote: How do you know he isn't. He could be a secret policeman with special brance. :lol:
he was - but now you've blown his cover........ =D

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 21:38
by hector
stefano wrote:Interesting although it would have been better to wait until the actual end of the season.

Remember Mr Hargreaves hasn't yet won 2 games in a row. Mr Knill did!

Mind you I'm daft enough to think CH will win 3 in a row sending Wycombe and Northampton down! ;-)
Some achievement, I'm sure :Oops:

Clutching at straws, Stefano!

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 23:02
by ferrarilover
kevgull wrote:I guess that stats show 2 very poor managers.
It doesn't necessarily show that at all, but ok.

Matt.

A few managerial stats to ponder

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 23:04
by ferrarilover
These numbers, while interesting, tell us absolutely nothing of any meaningful value as to the relative merits of either man as a manager.

Matt.