tommyg wrote:How can you possibly say Ajala is our best player on the back of a couple of pre-season games?
Thing with Ajala is that he wasn't just our best player, he was the best player on the pitch by a thousand miles. He wasn't simply the best of a bad bunch, he was at a level so far advanced of his team mates and opposition that he was very nearly playing a completely different game. The kid isn't just good, he's unreal.tommyg wrote:How can you possibly say Ajala is our best player on the back of a couple of pre-season games? I don't blame Hargreaves for starting him on the bench. Cameron was excellent towards the end of last season and Briscoe was our stand-out performer today. I suppose you could have played all three with one of them alongside or just behind Bowman and that could be something to look at in future games.
My biggest problem with the line-up was Benyon starting and Yeoman not even on the bench. Hargreaves transfer listed one and gave a new contract to the other, but the one he apparently doesn't want played and the one he does want was left at home!
If he was unreal then he wouldn't have been on the bench for Welling six months ago and would have secured a contract with a club in the Football League. I don't intend to knock him - he was excellent in pre-season and I'm happy he was rewarded with a contract, but I'm not getting carried away after a few friendlies. Hopefully he will produce similar displays when given a chance in competitive fixtures, but I was more than happy with Hargreaves' decision to start Cameron and Briscoe on the wings today.Pea wrote: Thing with Ajala is that he wasn't just our best player, he was the best player on the pitch by a thousand miles. He wasn't simply the best of a bad bunch, he was at a level so far advanced of his team mates and opposition that he was very nearly playing a completely different game. The kid isn't just good, he's unreal.
brucie wrote:It is absolutely nonsensical to keep harping on about Ajala - I havn't seen him as yet but suggesting that if we played Ajala,Yeoman and Ives then the result would have been any different is just plain daft.
Our problems are obvious - we had two full backs who are poor, a centre half (downes) who isn't really wanted by the manager and another centre half who spent all last season playing right back for Salisbury.
Add a keeper who is average at best - a central two of Young and Harding (the latter being one of the slowest players I have ever seen) and there are a still a shed load of problems with this team
I thought we might have got a draw from this one but predicted we would concede 3 which we did.
It was a very poor start - there is no other excuse for it.
You left out the fact we are having to persist with South Devon League standard, Benyon!brucie wrote:It is absolutely nonsensical to keep harping on about Ajala - I havn't seen him as yet but suggesting that if we played Ajala,Yeoman and Ives then the result would have been any different is just plain daft.
Our problems are obvious - we had two full backs who are poor, a centre half (downes) who isn't really wanted by the manager and another centre half who spent all last season playing right back for Salisbury.
Add a keeper who is average at best - a central two of Young and Harding (the latter being one of the slowest players I have ever seen) and there are a still a shed load of problems with this team
I thought we might have got a draw from this one but predicted we would concede 3 which we did.
It was a very poor start - there is no other excuse for it.
brucie wrote:No your the one making the pointless arguement - almost every manager starts the season opener with his most experienced line up - it happens time and time again.
If you really think that Hargreaves was going to start with a sixteen year old with no experience and a player who couldn't make Wellings starting line up at the end of last season then you must be thick or something. Really if you cannot see why he didn't start with these players today I give up.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hargreaveskept exactly the same starting line up on Tuesday either.
I know (knew) Kirsty, Keith and Charlotte and just would like every Gulls fan to spare a moment for them and all those that made the journey today, many of which will still be on their way home. I'm in no position to pass any more comment on the plight of TUFC but I for one certainly mentioned those fans to my friends today and what an inspiration they are for their club. I'm deeply sorry about the result today and hope everyone had / has a safe journey home. Cue snide comments from losers trying to get one-upmanship on an internet forum which I really couldn't give a **** about tbh. All I wanted to say is that every Torquay fan should take minute out tonight with their Horlicks, Doom Bar or bong to think about those special fans that went today and how much time, cash and energy they have spent in trying to get this this group of players over the start line.Sharot1999 wrote:As a Gateshead fan I just wanted to say hello to Keith, Kirsty and Charlotte who went to The Schooner pre match.
Well done for the terrific supporter numbers today.
We had 1 point after 4 matches last year, and we didn't do too badly.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
Kevin
Here speaketh someone who hasn't the first clue how football actually works. Not every talented player can be in the Barcelona starting XI. Believe me or don't, I don't care either way, the kid is so far beyond our level it's untrue. He'd slot straight into a top L1 side without any trouble at all and he'd take not more than a month to get up to Championship standard. All this Brucie style bollocks about "he wouldn't have been on the bench for Welling" just demonstrates an appalling lack of appreciation for how the inner workings of football actually function.tommyg wrote: If he was unreal then he wouldn't have been on the bench for Welling six months ago and would have secured a contract with a club in the Football League. I don't intend to knock him - he was excellent in pre-season and I'm happy he was rewarded with a contract, but I'm not getting carried away after a few friendlies. Hopefully he will produce similar displays when given a chance in competitive fixtures, but I was more than happy with Hargreaves' decision to start Cameron and Briscoe on the wings today.
Hi Andy so you are still here. How can you stop supporting Torquay. Obviously for some reason you have. Stop supporting a club is very rare and indeed strange from a grown man, kids change teams at school but that's kids. So Andy you either still have feelings for the club and come back, or leave us alone for good and stay off this forum. It's almost you want sympathy when you post , I love you as a poster, but hate you ditching the club , so if that's your decision stay awayAustrianAndyGull wrote: I know (knew) Kirsty, Keith and Charlotte and just would like every Gulls fan to spare a moment for them and all those that made the journey today, many of which will still be on their way home. I'm in no position to pass any more comment on the plight of TUFC but I for one certainly mentioned those fans to my friends today and what an inspiration they are for their club. I'm deeply sorry about the result today and hope everyone had / has a safe journey home. Cue snide comments from losers trying to get one-upmanship on an internet forum which I really couldn't give a f*** about tbh. All I wanted to say is that every Torquay fan should take minute out tonight with their Horlicks, Doom Bar or bong to think about those special fans that went today and how much time, cash and energy they have spent in trying to get this this group of players over the start line.
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