Torquay United Fans Forum

Glostergull

This is not heresay. It was from The Rovers Chairmans Mouth himslef in front of millions of veiwers.

Points West certainly seems to get a lot more viewers than the local stuff down here.

I think we're going for experience.

From what I've heard it's Frank O'Farrell as Director of Football, but with a younger man as first team Coach...Ken Furphy.

denspad

Have spent days pondering this one and just can't really work it out. What do we really believe Buckle's motives are for going to BR / Swindon? (as they are both league 2 sides next season it's hardly a meteoric rise to stardom) and why do we feel he has delayed making an announcement on his future? I have been playing most scenarios through my head and wonder why, if he intended to stay, he never stated he was going to stay before the play-off's. This would have, in my opinion, have added more team spirit of 'we are all in this together' before the final.

If he was going to stay he obviously would have made that fact known. I'd be surprised if the players weren't pretty sure in their mind that he was leaving.
You'll recall that Sir Alex made the mistake of announcing his retirement some time in advance & United's performances dropped off substantially. The players no longer have to work to impress you if you're leaving.It's how they perform for the new bloke that will be important.

Has Buckle ever turned down the chance to go ? I've not followed the various sagas as closely as some have over the years. There have been various glitches over compensation etc, but have we ever reached a stage where another Club has offered Buckle a job & he's said no ?

I doubt very much that PB will be breaking any news to the Chairman via telephone this morning. I'm sure the Directors know exactly what's going on & have been working on who to appoint as PB's successor for a few week's now.

It's my personal opinion that players don't improve greatly as a result of being coached by Buckle. It's my guess that the most recent accounts will again show that the Club is living beyond it's means & that the money needed to fund the wages for better players just won't be there..particularly with new grandstand associated costs, lower capacity next season etc. The days of 100k salaries for non playing staff or the small fortune we could throw the way of Mo Camara are over.

It's not an environment in which Buckle could thrive...he's spent the money , the kitty is empty & it's time for him to move on.

He worked extremely hard during his time here, the fact that he was Manager at the time we got back out of non league will always be in his favour.
I think there are definitely some reasons for wishing him well in his new job....but it doesn't stop me feeling sorry for the poor blighter who takes his place, who I expect will have to work with substantially fewer resources than those made abundantly available to PB over the years.

Good questions Gaz which I'm sure a lot of us would like the answer to. Why is goal music that big of a deal for Mr.Bucklethat he appears to have got the Clubs last public statement on it ditched & the music re-instated ? Why did he think it was worth making a fuss about 10 seconds worth of music which can hardly be heard anyway in order to get the music back for the next home match ?

It may not be a serious issue to you but judging by PB's commandments over the last week or so it certainly seems to be a serious issue for him.

Essentially it would be better letting the paying customers decide what they want rather than PB sticking his nose in to get the decision overturned.
What will he be deciding on next ?...the front cover picture for the programme or what sort of pie he approves of me buying at half time ?

Ferrari lover

Interestingly, when this EXACT question was posed by Simon Baker at the Fans Forum, the reply was a resounding YES! Of the 50 or so in the audience, I was the only one who dissented and said no

Let's hope the FF49 are proud of themselves.

Ferrari I think you should try hard to recall the names of some of the nodding numpties who are clearly in part responsible for this as I feel a list of shame needs to be compiled.

Well I've attempted to plough through that awful translation. Sounds guilty to me but if he's got the ability to vanish from the training ground I'm sure a Houdini style escape from custody should see him out & about in no time...& if they ever make an Icelandic version of Randall & Hopkirk there's a brighter future ahead for him.


Had a quick look at the Sports section of the Icelandic Herald Express & naturally had to click on the headline 'Ronaldo does not need new shoes'.
To save anyone the trouble of looking it up here it is reproduced below...quicker than you can say 'cobblers to Ronaldo'.



Ronaldo does not need new shoes

Now a week until Cristiano Ronaldo premiers new shoes from Nike in Madrid between Atletico and systolic Real. Based on his performance recently, however, seems no need for new shoes.

Ronaldo has scored as no one is tomorrow so far in the Spanish league and also put up goals for his allies as he get paid for it.

Twelve goals scored and assists eagles have become four. Ronaldo is funheitur.

Loyal Gull

Plenty of clubs are doing it nowadays so no reason why we shouldnt.

Why stop there Loyal Gull, plenty of teams play in red & white so no reason why we shouldn't.
You can never have too much of a good thing so why not combine it with a Lincoln City air raid siren every time we win a corner ?



I hope any suggestions for goal music are strangled at birth but if it ever did get introduced (shudder) then it needs to be played whichever team scores.
I think supporters should be treated equally as far as is practically possible & it is generally agreed that practices such as trying to charge away fans more for similar accomodation inside the ground is unfair. The price of coffee, tea or a programme is the same whichever side you support.

The paying customers inside Plainmoor include some who wish to see one team win & some hoping to see the other team win. If the entry fee includes 'music' to enhance the 'goal experience' it should be available to be enjoyed by everyone when their team scores. To announce a welcome to the players officials & fans from the visiting Club & then not let them enjoy the available facilities such as the goal music would be the height of bad manners.

An excellent post from Awayday & I'm sure all of us would prefer the Plainmoor crowd to get vocally behind the team much more than they do.
I was under the impression that a big 'initiative' was being worked on to address the low crowds, poor atmosphere problem & therefore the 'bring a few rattles or a vuvuzela' wasn't quite the conclusion I was expecting.

Our away fans do a superb job but unfortunately, for whatever reason, Plainmoor can be very very quiet & I did find mention of a wall of noise quite amusing.
Of course nothings really going to change, the Popside regulars will go on being their usual quiet selves...& the away fans will still ask us "shall we sing a song for you".

But supporting any of the lower League teams requires an ability to laugh at yourself now & then & try to have some fun while at the same time thinking how best to address any of the Clubs problems.

Let's hope we really can crank up the sound levels even if only by a small margin on Saturday....I can well believe it would be appreciated by the players.

Plainmoor's first 'Wall of Sound' game is going to be a riot of fun, dancing & music (depending on which instruments are brought along).
The Herald Express are apparantly contemplating a special edition to mark the event. Nothing is going to prepare you better for Saturday night's
'Strictly Come Dancing' than actually witnessing the fun & frolics of the 'Plainmoor Wall Of Sound'





I'm a little rusty on the old washboard but will have it with me on Saturday & fully intend to play my part.
Everyone needs to do their bit & be 'another brick in the wall' to help out Paul & the boys.

An interesting about turn with vuvuzelas no longer being declared a bad thing but now so good we can't get enough of them.

Let's keep an open mind on this & not view it as some type of inter-active game which encourages the kiddies to bring along all types of penny whistle.

I for one am looking forward to experiencing the new 'Plainmoor wall of sound' on Saturday. Indeed there is a rumour circulating that the team will run out wearing Phil Spector wigs in acknowledgement of the new decibel level generated by the Plainmoor 'wall'. That is neither confirmed or denied as yet by the official site so we'll just have to wait & see.


My one concern is that very frequently,often even before half time, I find myself having to bellow " sort it out Buckle!!" in the general direction of the home dugout. Should PB fail to hear this well meaning advice from myself over the din of the Plainmoor wall of sound I do fear perfomances could suffer as a result.

I've been a little surprised at the lack of concern shown by some at the likelihood of Nicky Wroe leaving.
I assumed his abilities were appreciated to a higher extent than they evidently are.

To me he never looked like the type of player Buckle would favour, or one who would find it easy to flourish within Buckle's preferred
style of play. But of course PB did sign him & Nicky has put in some excellent performances during his time here.

Personally I don't think he will be particularly easy to replace & will prove to be a bigger loss to our midfield than many are expecting.

Oh dahling, black and blue, so last season....

That could well be true...but some people still manage to look good in it

Bit of a dog's breakfast all round but certainly gave us neutrals a laugh. On balance I slightly dislike Spurs more than I dislike Man Utd but irrespective of that we all want to see the game officiated properly.

No side want's the play to be brought back so they can take a free kick if it means they lose the advantage & in that respect I don't think Spurs can complain.
Once the Man Utd attack had broken down Gomes was able to throw the ball out quickly or kick it from his hands if he preferred...all before Man Utd were able to get back into position & reorganize.

I don't know whether the Ref did or didn't see Nani's hand resting on the ball but had Clattenburg insisted on a free kick being taken rather than letting play continue that would surely have limited Spurs options & helped Man Utd take up their marking & defensive positions.

The main lesson as lot's have pointed out is to observe the old adage of 'play to the whistle'..rather than corncerning yourself over what decision you think the Referee should or should not be making.