Torquay United Fans Forum

RedGull1902 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:54 . Someone said we won’t win a game for the rest of the season! Think he’s right!

That won't matter if we don't lose a game for the rest of the season.

Brewers boy wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 18:33 If we change to part time, there is nothing to stop us going back to full time if we progress up the league. To be honest, what matters is getting the best players that we can afford in.

Nothing ...... apart from finances. Of course the club needs to employ the best players that it can afford but that probably will not be on full-time wages if the club wants to avoid future administrations etc. Also, what is the incentive for part-time players if they know that they will be jettisoned if they do achieve promotion?

culmstockgull wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:17 Dont disagree with your views on the south west, however the drag of a scouser or a geordie back to their home environment is massive, they do feel like a duck out of water when they are away from home,food and beer is different, we arent half as friendly as geordie's , etc etc. Go to the midlands say and if you drop out of a league team there are dozens of paying local teams to play for within reasonable travelling, We need a new, innovative and fresh strategy to encourage these players towards us. I do not subscribe to the theory there are no good local players, logic says otherwise, Booth is going to be a good player at our level, Ollie Bray another we missed out on, what we need is a local based scouting system, because logic dictates the players are out there.

Part-time local players are fine if the club is going to yo-yo between NL and NLS but if there are ambitions to push for a return to the EFL the players will need to be full-time and there is not enough local talent available for that. Plymouth and Exeter take the pick of the best local players who have full-time aspirations and whilst they may loan players to Torquay, that can only be a stop-gap measure. There are players like Moore and Watkins who might have been signed if we were in a Seventies time-warp but in recent years any local players who have been offered the opportunity have generally failed to make the grade. Whilst GJ is now derided he did have contacts such as his son who were able to loan him players from EFL clubs away from Devon - and several of the better Torquay players in recent seasons have been such loanees - but without such a manager and/or a wealthy owner it is difficult to be sanguine about Torquay's prospects. However, one potential advantage of the geographical location is that experienced players released by SW clubs like Argyle, Exeter, Bristol City and Rovers and even Yeovil may be prepared to play for Torquay if it means that they do not have to relocate their homes and families. It used to be the case that ex Plymouth stalwarts played their last couple of seasons at Plainmoor but that no longer seems to be the case - perhaps Truro or Taunton are a more attractive proposition but that should not be so. On the bright side if Torquay can avert relegation the prospects of potentially winning local derbies against the SW teams like Taunton, Truro, Weston, Weymouth and maybe Forest Green, in a couple of years time, are surely more enticing than trips to Hartlepool or Gateshead.

Owlgull wrote: ↑18 Mar 2024, 14:00

It's not ghost tickets that are the problem - it's ghost players who are not spirited enough.

UnitedinDevon wrote: ↑20 Feb 2024, 19:06

BigDave certainly needs to calm down and have a word with his father to go!

Anyway back to the real world, it's an all out team with Dawson and Jarvis starting and Stobbs also back on the bench!

I will predict a win - Farmers 1-3 Torquay

Oh and Gary Out!

Thanks for the acknowledgement - it's always nice to get recognition even if it is from someone who does not seem to understand the meaning of the word "United". Still I'm sure that Gary won't be perturbed by your negativity and he will take huge encouragement from your prediction - you are well placed in the Prediction League: presumably by usually predicting Torquay will lose! Win-win tonight unless it's a draw.

The Great Muta! wrote: ↑20 Feb 2024, 12:49 For me, since the Hartlepool game it's pretty much been downhill ever since, that season we should of gone up automatically, we had a really good commanding lead in the league, but we ended up in the playoffs and the rest is history as they say.. We've also suffered massively with the break-up of the squad that so nearly got us promoted,the replacements have been hugely inferior, and without sounding harsh, NLS or lower is their level, they aren't bad players at all, we need to be up their getting promoted with a view to being in the EFL, I don't think these players are the answer, it boils down to recruitment and also being over loyal to players who GJ should of moved on..The writing has been on the wall here for ages, post Hartlepool it's been bad, last season after the hype was awful, and this season we've never convinced, the last month has been a real low point.

Torquay might have been promoted but where would they be now if that had happened? Hartlepool are back in the NL with their prospects of reaching the play-offs being similar to those of Torquay in NLS. Sutton look destined to be returning to the NL accompanied by the village team from Nailsworth. Of course the die hard fans can dream but the reality is that Torquay are a borderline NL team who may occasionally get relegated to NLS and may occasionally flirt with promotion to the EFL. The identity of the manager has some bearing on the results but the ability to attract quality players is more important and that is where Torquay have a significant disadvantage. It is interesting that Nouble chose to move to Yeovil rather than sign for Torquay and after the Hartlepool defeat several players chose to move to other clubs in the same division. It could be that the balmy Torbay climate is disagreeable for macho professional footballers but it is more probable that comparative wages are a factor. Johnson is probably as good a manager as Torquay are likely to get and at present his team is going through a bad patch but the time to give a verdict is when the season has finished. Guildford Gull typifies the blinkered approach that many posters on this site appear to have: sacking a manager for only finishing second is hardly likely to act as an incentive for any potential better replacements.

WestLondonYellow wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 19:50 He means around 18 months ago when it was obvious the squad he had was incapable of achieving anything on the national league and clearly looked like relegation fodder, which is exactly what played out.

You think you are being clever with your post here but actually all you are doing is showing poor humour, poor judgement and a lack of class.

If he means MONTHS then why does he say YEARS? Is it an attempt to show how clever he is - being wise before the event, rather than after it? (Perhaps he can answer for himself.)
Poor humour is better than no humour at all and gallows humour appears to be what is necessary on this site with all the Johnson detractors seeming to think that hanging, drawing and quartering would be too good a fate for him: were they all baying for his blood after that Hartlepool encounter in June 2021? Fickle, fair weather fans with a sense of entitlement that is not based realistically on the club's achievements should be hoping that Johnson can produce some better results rather than taking a negative stance. If a new manager takes over the reins and fails to get Torquay United into a higher division within a year or so, will UnitedinDevon, WainwrightGull, WestLondonYellow, et al be proclaiming that they knew that that would be the case? If Johnson stays and somehow manages to achieve promotion there will doubtless be some Damascene conversions among those harbingers of doom so blessed with omniscient hindsight.

UnitedinDevon wrote: ↑19 Feb 2024, 17:31 It's not even a discussion for me, GJ took us down and now is showing his inability to adapt to get anywhere near the best out of the current group

We have no playstyle, identity, plan B and with the poor recruitment and training ground/fitness/injury issues he should have gone YEARS ago not months

Even by some microscopic miracle he takes us up there is too much water under the bridge to go back

Any other football club in the land would have sacked this ineptitude but that leads to the person who has the power to do so....

By YEARS ago do you mean the season when Torquay finished 2nd in the National League and were beaten in the Play-off Final or do you mean the year before last when the club only managed 11th place? The hyperbolic CAPITALS might even suggest that you would have dismissed Johnson before he was even appointed, which would of course have prevented the ineptitude to which you refer. (I am sure that it's not just other football clubs who would like to know the secret of how one can sack ineptitude - perhaps you could enlighten us as it is somewhat similar to knitting water.)

"What we lack most is experience in the back four. Just 2 experienced guys could make a huge difference. Time is running out." What an erudite appraisal of the problem and its solution!
There are not many guys still playing who have more experience than Moxey, but presumably you don't consider him to be part of the back four (maybe he isn't fast enough to get back from the half-way line so you regard him as a mid-fielder.) The difference that two more experienced guys are likely to make is that there will be no-one in the defence young enough to bend sufficiently to retrieve the ball from the back of the net.

Presumably having treatment on his injured hand as Lovett had replaced Halstead in time to concede the third goal. Were you intending to make the point that it is difficult for a goalkeeper to save shots when they are not on the pitch?

I had the same issues and received the following response from:
K Bron <[email protected]>

Hi David,

Thanks for the email,

The live stream is a feed we are continuously working on to make as flawless a product as possible.

However, this event wasn't one in which we've noted any consistent issues over the course of the event. I've looked back over our reports and notes from the operations team and we've not noted any issues, nor did we receive any consistent complaints from other viewers.

This indicates that the issue wasn't on our end as a problem with how we upload/encode the event would be seen by every member watching the stream, rather than a single viewer. An error that just affects an individual viewer indicates that the problem is on their end.

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I don't care about the £9.50 but the disdainful arrogance riles me enough to want to take it further if I can discover the right authority to complain to.