Torquay United Fans Forum

To Gull 67......How are Exeter City arrogant?, I would say Argyle are more arrogant by a mile, as far as I see it, Exeter have got a great set up, fans owned, youth scheme 2nd to none, I get your comment, but it comes off as part envious, we beat them up in a friendly, brilliant, but it counts for little..What matters is trying to get out of the crap we find ourselves in,

It's not about not liking it up 'em as you call it, it's a pre season game, the clues in the title, 9/10 both managers agree to not go in full blooded and to hold off a bit, steaming in and running around like a fruitcake in a pre season game dosen't impress me to be honest with you, last season we beat Exeter and look at what happened there, I take this result with a colossal pinch of salt, means little. .Injuries in pre season or causing them, what's the point? I don't get it .

Spot on DevonBee the silence is pathetic, GJ being all cloak and dagger,very evasive, he needs a reality check, this is 6th tier regional football against part timers..I think it's an ego or power thing myself, he could tell us all, but he won't, just my theory..Just Tell us about the njuries and give the fans updates, not much to ask.

Good result today, although I very much look at it as a fitness exercise, the result dosen't mean to much other than a bit of a morale boost, but it's a win...Dawson is a worry, think we can all cast our minds back to when and how he came to the club, he wasn't really playing that much at Gloucester, he looks a decent NL standard of player, but I sense he's only a 25-30 games a season type, I don't know he track record with injuries, but it maybe why other NL have swerved him, that's not knocking him by the way, he looks decent, but not sure if the reason he's with us is because he's injury prone, and they've taken their toll.

I know what you mean, GJ states that by telling the fans any form of "news" is showing your hand to other teams??, I know he's very tight lipped or at least the club is, but this non communication is pointless and it creates a barrier between club and fans, just come out and be transparent and explain, like I said a while ago, I hate "spin" I'd have a lot more respect and time for GJ if he was more honest, front it up and be straight with people, being so gaurded dosen't help

The new additions do look good, Craske in particular will be good, he was very good when featuring for Truro last season, Ash is livewire, he'll run and chase down and maybe having a settled squad from last season will help with the continuity...I still do wonder about Marshall, Crowe,McGavin and Hanson, but perhaps these 4 won't feature much, I don't mean to be harsh but NLS maybe to much for them..All in all the signs are pretty healthy.

Listen folks, I've got zero issues with none of yous!, We are all entitled to our views, I'm bloody frustrated with 22/23, it was shocking, but I'll stay loyal and get behind the team, nobody's got the golden answer, and we all think our own views are right (otherwise we wouldn't post them), I'll try and be more positive, I do stand by my views, esp about next season being tough, Dartford under Dowson will be decent, Maidstone and Havant, and of course Yeovil, I'll throw it out there that the suprise outfit could to Truro, decent manager, great team unity and they play decent football, a high press, great work ethic style...out of the loanees I'm not sure why or what went on with Ricky Aguair, I see Swindon have kept him on and he looked half decent, We really struggled with so many personnel changes, and with formation and tactics, but come the start of season we need to try and be positive, I'm just very frustrated with how things are, that's all.

This is the thing, I post my views, people can agree or disagree, but what's with the insults and sarcasm?, I had it last season from Southampton Gull because i believed Aldershot would stay up, anyhow, if I disagree with or read something that I think is untrue, I don't get on this forum and start throwing insults about, we're all Gulls fans, but some of us are highly frustrated at everything we see, and I hate "spin" GJ does it a lot, to much for my liking..Just a shame we are in the 6th tier again.

Nice one DevonBee, you're allowed to say your piece, this is a platform to express your views as a fan, that's what we all do, if you and I, and a good few others as well aren't happy with the whole set, behind the scenes, on and off the park, the management set up and squad, we are allowed to say this and call it out, I said a few posts ago, to some fans this is as good as they know, the bar is set very low, we should be a league club, we were for many years, GJ you could argue has taken us backward and brainwashed fans into thinking this journey is "exciting" it isn't, and it never will be..I stand by the amount of players we used, and loanees who were no good, or even signings who I've forgotten about (Mensah) honestly, what a bloody awful, piss poor season we had..the trouble is, I've got a huge feeling that 23/24 is gonna get ugly in a hurry, the local games meaning other teams will see us as their cup final, it'll be trickier than people realise.

Very cushy questions and evening for GJ and his hired help, dining out on the last 10 games when it was to little to late, the damage was done, Inferior cast offs signed up, loanee youths who were more miss than hit, 40 players used and GJ in denial = relegation was a given ...No way in the world players are staying with us for less cash, that's totally flowering up things, if Stobbs is happy playing 6th tier football then good luck to him, its no disgrace at all, but I thought he might of set his sights higher..I think next season maybe a real wake up call to everyone, we've actually found our level, we played a few NLS teams last season and you couldn't tell who was the higher placed team..

That's the thing DevonBee,you won't hear from Osborne, he's shady and up to something, I can sense it in my waters, and as for this "millions" into the club, never, it hasn't happened, we don't pay transfer fees, we don't pay high wages, not overnight stays etc, we've got Johnson's mates on the payroll, whereabouts has Osborne pumped millions into The Gulls?, its utter BS, I can't believe fans believe it ..

DevonBee you're spot on , The buck stops with GJ, I don't want to see him fist pumping and giving it the"big one" next season, I have forgotten the mess HE'S got us into...Why he wasn't sacked is a mystery..

No way in the world Jarvis will get anywhere near 40 goals this coming season, he's had 1 decent season so far in his career, is he a decent player at this level?, yes, but nobody is Indispensable, esp Aaron Jarvis, after 15 games last season people didn't even want him at the club!, I think fans are getting carried away with this.

Ideally we need to get out of the league asap, whether it'll happen is 50/50 for me, still not entirely convinced about the squad and if they're good enough to get us out of the league, what I would say is any comparison to Stockport is immaterial to be honest, they are are pretty big club, good solid support and fanbase, and are really a league 1 size of club, their support suggests that, we aren't them, we are at best a solid league 2 side with a fanbase of around 2500-3000 fans at best, that's not me knocking the club or our size, if we stay multiple season in NLS I don't think we'll survive, nor stay full time etc..

Not keen on all this talk about taking large number to Taunton, WSM, Plymouth Parkway etc etc, yet again I'll reiterate, we shouldn't be in this league, nor the one above it, we were a solid 4th tier club, to some fans maybe they buzz off being a big fish in a goldfish bowl, beating part timers I don't want to see fist pumping, flares going off, phony hype, us taking the piss out of set ups smaller than ours...I want to respect the league, the opposition, be fully focused, go about our business in a decent way, GJ has a major habit of pissing people off with his antics, he isn't popular at all, let's just see what the season brings, but sadly, something tells me we've found our level, 6th tier regional football.