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by goody2449
11 Apr 2018, 18:55
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Torquay v AFC Fylde 11/04 (was pp on 3/3/18)
Replies: 233
Views: 32022

Torquay v AFC Fylde 11/04 (was pp on 3/3/18)

Soupdragon wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 11:42 I accept that I know little about football, and less about refereeing. And yes, I chose to stay at home last night and watch City v Liverpool rather than traipse up to Plainmoor and be completely, entirely and totally depressed by yet another poor home performance. So I can’t comment on our game.

I’m on record here as being unconvinced by Owers. I’ve been unconvinced since the day he arrived (really, I blame Merse for that: breaking the ‘news’ on BTPIR that we were definitely getting Westley. Except we didn’t. Almost anyone would have been a disappointment after that. To me at least), and I am even more unconvinced now. Owers been here since 13 September, eight whole months; was given an improved budget (not to mention the cash it took to ‘poach‘ him); was given an improved club infrastructure to support him in terms of travel and hotel stays and the like; has brought in in excess of two entire teams of players; yet has achieved precisely nothing.

Steve Breed says Owers looked like a beaten man last night. With the only exception I can think of being the “We’re not rubbish anymore” interview (what a joke), he’s actually looked like a beaten man for the entire time he’s been here. It’s proven: the team’s NOT fitter than when Nicho was here; they’re NOT more organised on field than when Nicho was here; they’re not ‘better’ than when Nicho was here. I accept that Nicho was 'green', that he made mistakes ... but there was/is definitely something there. Something that could have been nurtured and developed, and we would be - at worst - no worse off than we are now.

However, I genuinely believe that Nicho would have managed to get us out of it, even without Owers’ improved budget, even if he still had to drive the team bus at stupid o’clock in the morning to get to games. And, yes, even if he was still pitching up at the Lousia Carey ward or similar every other lunchtime. Nothing the likes of Merse or his cadre of yes-men can say could actually prove otherwise.

What has been proved is that, even with Clarke Osbourne putting his hand in his pocket to the tune of, what, half a million quid since last September, Owers has come up short. And he has turned what, on paper, could have been a ‘team’, into nothing more than a shower.
Owers’ Shower. An appropriate name, I think.

I shall attempt to forget Torquay United this evening, and hope that Juventus can overturn their deficit against Ronaldo Madrid (although since visiting Lisbon and seeing how that fine city rests upon his shoulders, tourism-wise, I have become something of a fan of his. And that goal! Although nowhere near as good as Hilly’s, of course).

I suspect there are plenty that will forget TUFC full stop. And with the current ownership’s plans for our club, that is far from good for us.

Tl;dr, I know. Forgive me. It’s only because I’m damn angry.
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Really glad I couldn’t make it last night or to any of the remaining fixtures, sounds as though the players have all but confirmed in their own minds they’ve been relegated, I did notice today though, that they’ve been go karting, on a team bonding exercise, I’d say it’s 12 months too late!
by goody2449
09 Apr 2018, 02:22
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM
Replies: 180
Views: 26369

Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM

:goodpost:

The best balanced post I’ve read on here for a long time

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by goody2449
08 Apr 2018, 19:58
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM
Replies: 180
Views: 26369

Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM

Teigngull wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 19:48 [highlight=yellow]'BUDGET'.... Is a fixed amount of money to be made available for a set period of time.
So, if I were to have 'budgeted' myself to £100 a week for food & end up spending most of it by tuesdsy, how can I expect to eat in the best restaurants come Saturdays ?
You can say what ever you want about Merse & his comments & views, but, he always believes in what he's prepared to say 100%, whether you feel he's right or wrong has no bearing.
I suppose in a way Merse feels totally qualified due to his lifetime connection supporting the club & his insight garnered by actually being employed within the TUFC walls at one stage during his working life.[/highlight]

Realistically, Owers has been searching the bargain basement bins for some sort of quality to be able to field a team since he's been here. Whilst the senior experienced pro's brought in during the summer, on, & it has to be said, decent 2 year contracts a lot of clubs in this division couldn't afford to offer, have undoubtedly let the manager, who put his faith in them, the owner, who rubber stamped their pay deals, the fans, who live & love this addictive little club to the bitter end, & more importantly, they've let themselves down in bucket loads.
To some of them it won't matter as this will be their last decent pay day, other prospective employers would've noticed their lack of involvement, but for the younger ones, they may be offered a new deal but are just as likely to be shown the door by us & bypassed by other clubs.
[highlight=yellow]So we've seen 22 players come in during GO's tenure & unearthed how many gems ?[/highlight]
That's the price you pay for blowing all of your budget on unfit for purpose players & then duping all & sundry into believing they've won the lottery with the obvious carthorses on show.
That's why I believe Mr Nicholson is culpable for this season's disaster, but also Harrop & Hedges for their inability to put it right at the earliest opportunity.
There was no obvious contingency plan & Owers & Khul have paid the price, even though I don't think they are the right men to take this club forward.


So your telling me that there was no funds added to the yearly budget for Owers to bring his 22 players, or the money used to compensate Bath to actually Owers in the first players was part of said budget??

Where did the money come from to pay 22 loan players????? your argument is poor, if there was zero left in the budget, 22 players wouldn't have arrived!

How can anyone but owers be blamed for not unearthing gems, he got the jobs on the basis he had contacts contacts contacts, what a load of bull!
by goody2449
08 Apr 2018, 18:05
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM
Replies: 180
Views: 26369

Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM

greb46 wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 18:02 Don't disagree Goody ,I don't think Nicholson can be blamed for the current situation it is ultimately down to Owers with the time he's had to at least get us safe and has failed I just think we need stability for next season so need to see what he does next year if after a short spell he's still a disaster then change it asap rather than dithering like this season,.
Completely agree, but do we really trust Harrop to not waste 6 weeks again?

Does that not also breed the same problems we've had this season, one manager bringing in 'his' p[layers and then another coming in ten games later waning to change it all up again, resulting in another poor season
by goody2449
08 Apr 2018, 17:55
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM
Replies: 180
Views: 26369

Dover v Torquay Utd. SAT 7TH APRIL. ko.3PM

So in peoples opinions, the signings made by Nicholson are to blame for the position we currently find ourselves in. the same players hailed at the start of the season by the majority of fans all as good signings. Players still being used by the current manager because apparently, Nicholson wasted the season budget on duds.

Owers has brought in 22 players.

let that sink in, 22 players!!!!

Don't tell me Nicholson wasted th budget when this idiot has brought so many duds he could fill 2 teams!!!

Murphy, Evans, Myrie-Williams, the French striker (wont try and spell his name) the young lad from Plymouth, these are just a few I can remember that im sure wouldnt of come to TUFC for cheap, so where did the money come from, and who spent it?? Owers has wasted a damn sight more of any budget Nicholson did.

My point here is, yes Nicholson's signings have not all proved to be the players we had hoped for, but do we really need to be told every week its Nichos fault, it's just boring. the fact that he is also being blamed for having too many loanees is laughable. hes had 2 thirds of a season to buy players/sign them up, ( i understand its hard to get good players throughout the season) but other clubs have managed it ok.

i repeat, 22 players have been brought in since owers arrived. there's only one manager here whose to blame and its Owers. he's had 2 thirds of a season to sort it out, hes done F**k all close to getting us out of the situation we've been since he's arrived.
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 18:19
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

westyorkshiregull wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 18:18 Relegation or great escape number x

Think the time is now is too support the manager and squad and have a debrief at the end of the season.
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by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 18:15
Forum: All things Plainmoor
Topic: MOTM - Woking
Replies: 12
Views: 1666

MOTM - Woking

Romain
Young
Lemonheigh Evans
Healey
Davis
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 18:13
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

gullintwoplaces wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 18:11 Just home. A well deserved win, the better team throughout. Although we almost conspired to gift Woking a couple more goals. Very proud of the team today, they did the right things (mostly) on a tricky pitch. Romain was first class, wish we’d had him all season. Well done to the players, well done to Owers👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

A[highlight=yellow]s for the referee, dear me, Little Man syndrome to the max, we won despite him and his theatrics. I could see what he was going to be like, high fiving the linesmen just before kick off. A complete ****.[/highlight]
Couldn’t agree more!!!
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 18:12
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

Good win today, Woking were poor, very poor, probably not the best performance by Torquay we’ve seen either but they did ok. I think if they had pressured the back four of Woking more they would probably would of got a few more goals in the first half, they looked nervy. Cracking strike from Evans for the second, but as always, only a one goal lead becomes nervy in the last few minutes. Definitely deserved the win, fingers and toes crossed for next week now!
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 17:48
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

Yorkieandy wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 17:46 What I find amusing is that after a defeat there are usually a couple of pages of Owers is a useless tw*t by now but as the team won it's pretty quiet.

Maybe everybody is out enjoying the barmy Easter Monday weather and have also left their mobile phones in the car?

Yep. That'll be it.
No, he’s still useless, but we’ve got no choice but to get behind him! 6 points was a must this weekend, fair play, but it means nothing if they can’t go to Dover next week with some confidence in themselves to perform!
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 17:14
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Chester v Torquay United, 3pm, Good Friday, 30/3/18
Replies: 128
Views: 18192

Chester v Torquay United, 3pm, Good Friday, 30/3/18

Arrywithnobrain wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 15:47 [highlight=yellow]
Presumably then Merse, by your own reasoning, if Torquay do avoid relegation you will be the first to acknowledge that Nicholson is responsible!
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:goodpost: :lol:

Of course he won’t!!
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 12:09
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

Chris Ralph the grounds man has just said “Game on barring any massive downpours” on Twitter, happy days, well done Chris!!
by goody2449
02 Apr 2018, 07:59
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Chester v Torquay United, 3pm, Good Friday, 30/3/18
Replies: 128
Views: 18192

Chester v Torquay United, 3pm, Good Friday, 30/3/18

Southampton Gull wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 07:47
[highlight=yellow]Owers is full of excuses not solutions and most seem quite happy to give the clown another season as we spiral towards oblivion.[/highlight]
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by goody2449
01 Apr 2018, 17:57
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

HockeyGull wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 17:47 The machines will need to be up to scratch as the rain has returned. Shame they weren't in place last Saturday. Hopefully they have been paired up front with a couple of pitch covers.
Hoping to see a win by any method should the game be on.
Yeah theres covers on the worst bits also, think it might take a miracle though, bloody rain! :aww:

https://www.torquayunited.com/pitch-upd ... ng-020418/
by goody2449
01 Apr 2018, 16:25
Forum: Matchday Topics
Topic: Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18
Replies: 185
Views: 25706

Easter Monday, Torquay v Woking, 2/4/18

A couple of machines have been purchased to help remove the standing water, so with that and some more work today hopefully Chris will work his magic and get the pitch playable, its a must play, must-win game tomorrow, just to build the momentum if nothing else.