Torquay United Fans Forum

Glostergull wrote:I have serious doubts that his demands were public. this is the area of confidentiality. no player would advertise his demands. wages or expenses. I doubt any of you would do so either. for any reason. because of this none of us know what his real demands are or were. and I cannot in all honesty hold me hand up to say. oh it was turned down for this or that reason.. we are just surmising. dangerous act to play..if your all so sure why don't you go up to Bristol and ask him why

The £1k relocation fee that is being suggested, came from a direct message to Godrington Gull via Ronald Huth's Twitter account at the time... which translated as this ...

GoodringtonGull wrote:This is what the message reads. Granted his English isn't great!

"No friend. I accept the salary little that was offered to me. Pay my flat. Only asked 1000£ bonus by sign and said that no and withdraw the offer. Sorry but it is not my fault. Thanks very much for all the messages to my person..."

There is no mention of what the salary offer was - only that Huth viewed it as "small" but did accept it - only for the offer to seemingly be withdrawn by us when he asked for £1000 to help secure a flat.

That is Huth's account ( according to Goodrington Gull - no reason to doubt him at all) and so I guess it's whether you choose to believe him or not.

All academic now, of course, as the wages freed up in the budget when Angus left, were (presumably) taken up by GG when he was given a contract - unfortunately, decent player though he is, he is not good enough in the air to play centre half and lacks the aggression needed in my opinion. Huth, on the evidence of that one game alone would have been an excellent acquisition but I suspect in the end Nicho felt he might not "fit in" to what he is trying to build. Boy we could have done with him though!

Yep, fair play to AustrianAndy (I refuse to call him YorkieAndy !) he was spot on with how we should approach the game! York had some talented players ( Brodie, Connolly, Heslop etc ) but we went at them them right from the kick off and got our early reward. We were hanging on a bit at the end, but in fairness I thought we thoroughly deserved the win - we could easil have had added more, but happy for Blissett that he got off the ,ark with a couple of fine finishes.

"North Ferriby winning. Sorry to say this but Torquay have been horrible far from the team I remember"

The reaction of Danny Racchi on Twitter who was at the game today ..... says it all really. There is something wrong with things at TQ1 at the moment - we were promised a team who would be fitter than any other team, who would go to war in every game, who we would be proud of ..... cannot see it myself. In all honesty, when you look at the two teams (and this would also include Sutton on Tuesday) and based on their individual career records there are not too many (on paper at least) of the players in our side that you would swap for the opposition, but for whatever reason, it just isn't happening. WHY?????

Ha, each to their own I suppose.

Personally I like it, and will be buying one on Saturday. At the end of the day, it was always going to be yellow and blue and I like the blue band running down the shoulders and arms and the club crest on a blue circular background. The subtle pin stripe running down it also looks good - will need to see it "in the flesh" but like the look of it in the photos. I am also a big fan of having blue shorts with the yellow shirt a la Brazil!

Nice one Arthur (from Brazil, of course!)

GoodringtonGull wrote:This is what the message reads. Granted his English isn't great!

"No friend. I accept the salary little that was offered to me. Pay my flat. Only asked 1000£ bonus by sign and said that no and withdraw the offer. Sorry but it is not my fault. Thanks very much for all the messages to my person..."

Hugely frustrating to miss out on a player of his quality for such a relatively small amount of money! I would even go so far as to say that if the football club had gone around the ground with buckets after the game on Monday night with the intention of raising that sum of money to clinch a deal to sign him .... they would have had no trouble!

Jeez, this club frustrates the hell out of you sometimes

If it is only a case of £1k to clinch the deal then why don't the club put out a specific request for help???? I am an old enough supporter to remember the days long ago when the club were totally skint (nothing changes!!!) and the fans were so desperate to sign a striker by the name of Steve Phillips who had enjoyed a particularly fruitful loan period with us and we raised enough money to pay enough of his wages to get him in. Perhaps we could do the same agin for Huth?

Real, real shame if that is the reason for him not coming here. I'm sure that a fair few donations (mine included!) to the Players Fund may have been inspired by the hope that the monies paid in might just enable us to get his signing over the line.

You only have to look at the reaction across the various fans forums and social media in general to see what an impact he has already had on the fans - based on purely 90 minutes in a friendly! There were even 1 or 2 of us who had already given thought to buying a Huth 5 shirt when it is eventually launched!

Of course, we don't really know how much Nicho really wanted him and when he talks of carrying out "due diligence" (boy I hate the use of that phrase so much!!!!) you really do wonder whether we haven't taken things a little too far - how the heck you are going to do that on a player that has played all over Europe and South America over the last 5 or more years I just don't know. Sometimes, you just have to go with your gut instinct and what you have seen with your own eyes and the performance he gave on Monday was quite simply head and shoulders above everyone else on the night. Unsurprisingly he had a similar reaction from the Bath City fans, with one saying that he thought he would easily be the best defender at our level this season should we sign him.

Given the sale of MacDonald for £100k, you have to feel that surely the club could have put an affordable package together (without going over the top) if only in the hope that come January we could sell him on for a sizeable profit!

Replacing MacDonald with someone of equal ability really won't be easy and starting the season with just two centre backs (OK Three if you include LRT) is not ideal and we will just have to see whether Gerring and McGinty are good enough to cope with the best that the National League has to offer.

Jerry wrote:How do we know that Nicho even wants him?

It all seems a bit over the top after one pre-season appearance. Long time posters will no doubt remember the clamour to sign Danny Wring after a similar pre-season performance.

Yes Wring (from memory) was pretty good that day, along with another triallist (Elliot Benyon if memory serves me right?) - but it was played at Coach Road in front of a few hundred people against mediocre opposition. Whereas Huth was up against international standard strikers in Rondon and Berahino in what was a full strength Premiership side played in front of 3000.

I know it is easy to get carried away, but I said immediately after the game that in all my years of watching TUFC in PSFs (40+) I can never recall seeing such an outstanding performance by a triallist in a TUFC shirt - he was THAT good. I guess I wasn't the only who felt like that either given the chants of "Sign Him Up" and "Hoooooottttthhhhhh" that were regularly heard throughout the second half from the Pop Side. How often does a triallist (particularly a centre half!) get that sort of reaction on debut?

Oh and thanks for the welcome (back) Gulli .... the "break" did me good and we (TUFC) are in a lot better position (post GI) than when I left back in January when I couldn't see anything but a sad decline for our club - so much praise goes out to Nicho (wouldn't have been my choice at the time) but his efforts on both the playing side and the wider community have been fantastic and he deserves our support now more than ever.

I notice that Ronald Huth has just posted something on Twitter (quite a rare event in itself it seems) in Spanish - which according to the Google translation comes out as something like this ....

"I will never be easy to make a decision when you do not know which side of the coin will be the best .. Your plans are better than mine God."

Ok, so you get the gist! It does sound to me from that as though he has another offer to consider? Now, just speculating here but he did feature for Eastleigh in a friendly win against Northampton on Saturday - where it seems he played 45 minutes at Left Back. Unsurprisingly by all accounts he did pretty well and they (Chris Todd) were planning to have another look at him on Monday in another friendly against Gosport but as we know, in the end he rocked up here and played for us against WBA.

Now Eastleigh have more than enough quality in the centre of their defence already BUT they have just (today) settled up the contract of their experienced Left Back Dan Harding thus freeing up a place in their squad and presumably some decent wages in their budget too. So, I just wonder whether it is Eastleigh on the other "side of the coin". Let's hope he chooses the right side - even if it is (probably) on a lot less money!

Of course I may be barking up the wrong tree completely and it may very well not be Eastleigh - but whatever, it does appear that he has more than just the one ( ours being one of them, we assume) offer to consider ....

Perhaps we need to help him make up his mind .... and if it's a question of money what better way to "bridge the gap" than by using the Players Fund! There's £50 on its way (via BACS) from me and my brother tonight!