Torquay United Fans Forum

forevertufc wrote:Get exactly what SBP is saying here, fair thread. For a start some of our transfer listed players are not on the list because CH doesn't like them, or think they're not up to the standard, they're on the list because of their wages being to high, to simply dismiss these players as being sh*t is wide of the mark, and anyone can do that. Why did Torquay lose Saturday, cause we we're sh*t, see.

In answer to SBP, I've used the word mentality a few times over the weekend, and it's true, mentality plays a massive part in team/individual sports, and from listening to the game, watching those brief highlights and reading match reports (agreed there is a time for an extra midfielder and Saturday was probably it) but it also seems if the team has allowed Gateshead to beat on them some what as well.

Just because we've gone down a league, doesn't mean I/we should expect to steamroller teams, win all our games, and dominate possession in our games, that isn't going to happen, we have to pay due respect to all the teams in this league, none will give us an easy ride.

What sort of performance do I want to see. with out the ball I want to see the team competing and working to get it back, with the ball I want to see us constantly asking questions of the opposition team, and looking like we've got a goal or two in us, if we're doing that, come win, draw or defeat they'll get a round of applause from me, and due credit.

JamieE wrote:I only saw one pre-season friendly this year and that was against Weymouth and it was clear from that performance we are not good enough to go out with two strikers and try and dominate games because we aren't very good!

Our full backs are poor, our centre halves are so slow, our midfielders are non-existent with no creativity, we have too many ineffective strikers and we still have Martin Rice in goal. You can't expect this team to be performing to a level where we are going to Gateshead and winning, they aren't good enough.

Hargreaves' signings have been fine and his hands are tied as to who he plays at the minute but what he is doing with the squad is naive. Our defence are individually poor but they're going to be exposed by a shape whereby we have two attacking wingers and a young midfielder alongside a hopeless journeyman - absolutely no cover. Playing Young in a two man midfield with Harding is like playing a young Eunan O'Kane with Chris McPhee. And all this to accommodate a second striker who at the minute is either Elliot Benyon or Ashley Yeoman, neither will score more than 5 goals each.

Courtney Richards needs to come into midfield and provide some bite and cover to a poor defence. We will continue to be so open and woeful until this happens. It may not be what fans want to hear or see but we need to be able to compete and scrap. If we go out and beat Welling 1-0 on Tuesday playing the same team, nothing will have changed. Playing 3 in midfield doesn't necessarily mean you are any less attacking, it can allow you to compete, dominate a game more and allow our wingers, clearly the best part of our squad, to express themselves.

Kernowgull wrote:Bloody hell, I live in Keynsham, a 10 minute walk from the ground, but had no idea this was going on!