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RedGull1902 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 22:28 When it come to predictions for the tonbridge game when I expect everybody will predict a big win ,I will ask them to explain why! Will start tonbridge win 4-0, why? Because we can’t pass, defend, create, score, hope I’m wrong probably won’t be,and yes I will be there god knows why!

Why do you think you feel the need to take out your frustration on other fans when things go badly, RedGull? The other month it was "WAAAHH EVERYONE IS STUPID COS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAYOFFS" when no-one was, now it's people having fun in a predictor league.

Funnily enough, North Curry House also claimed people were still talking about the playoffs the other day, another astute football brain...

It's crap, the situation is crap, and your guys' antics make me wonder whether you're actually just trolling....

madgull

Vick wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 16:01 Thanks, happytorq.
Yes, probably the second one, trying to get a quick deal, but it adds more risk to the club, which is unneccessary in my opinion.

The first one is where the suddenness comes in. As owner, Osborne knows exactly what the financial situation is and has been. To suddenly say "I'm out cuz I can no longer afford it" smacks of poor businessmanship, if there's such a word. He should have been able to see the trajectory long ago and done something about it, or offer the club for sale before it became too much for him.

In the nicest possible way, let's get real, it's number one, because a few weeks back CO was laughed out of the council with his stadium "plans"...again.

Having realised he wasn't going to get what he wanted, and having held his proverbial knife to the club's throat for long enough, he decided to cut it, along with his losses.

The 5m will largely be recouped (if it hasn't been already) through some clever/sneaky use of tax rules, and the rest he will laugh off as an investment that didn't quite come to fruition.

Of course, the cynic in me thinks it also doesn't hurt CO for any future "investments" he makes to know that he'll make good on his (implicit) threat to send the institution he buys to financial oblivion if his demands aren't met.....

madgull

North Curry House wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 17:21 Good to see you living up to your name. People ARE still talking about the playoffs, I knew long ago we had no chance. I am behind the team but we are not good enough. This season we need to just survive in this division, avoid administration and make a strong challenge next season. The next few weeks are crucial.

Did a quick search of the forum for "playoffs", last posts mentioning them were...

In the Aveley match thread; clearly not seriously discussing playoffs and talking about avoiding relegation, below:

Taelee73 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 08:53 As for the score, impossible to say really, some saying it’s not important, of course it is. To help make certain we can’t go down, if we lose players and for an outside chance of the Playoffs. No idea how different Downs is from Johnson in tactics/formations or how fired up or resigned the players will be, so a 3-3 draw.

..and me quoting someone else on the Braintree match thread yelling "can't believe people think we'll make the playoffs". Funny, when I asked them "who", they picked out a post from the 9th of February, from a user who had since said they didn't believe we could make the playoffs.

So, again, from this forum (which is obviously who you're addressing, unless you're making posts here aimed at people somewhere else...which would make you madder than me

) is seriously saying we're making the playoffs? I get it feels better to lash out at all these illusory "idiots", but I honestly think everyone agrees with you that it's all about survival!

madgull

North Curry House wrote: ↑02 Mar 2024, 17:02 Final score 1-1. We did manage to avoid defeat but you have to say two points dropped and our winless run extends to FOURTEEN in a piss poor league!

Forget the playoffs.

Mate, literally NOBODY is talking about the playoffs any more. Have you been living under a rock for the past few weeks!? Given the potential points deduction, staying +10 points above the drop zone is the only priority right now.

I get we've had a shocking season, but it's all a little more understandable now given what's going on. We don't need perpetually negative moaners at this point, we've got to pull together and give the boys our backing.

madgull

Colorado wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024, 23:25 Abbey Greyhound and Speedway Stadium Swindon
Read about it
Then respond here and explain your position again

I think we just need to ignore the pro-CO trolls at this point.

If you're helpless at the side of the road, somebody stops by, holds a knife to your throat, and says "don't worry, I'll save you...if you give me everything I want, or you're dead"....THEY ARE NOT YOUR SAVIOUR, THEY ARE A PREDATOR!!!

madgull

The one thing I'd stress now is that this is the time for the fans to get behind the players. The shattered morale all makes so much more sense now; the players will certainly have known this was coming, and it can't be a surprise that our shocking run of form has come as we've got closer and closer to D-Day. If we're to avoid relegation, and more generally to keep the spark of hope alive, people now need to be strong and SUPPORT. No more groaning and venting frustration at misplaced passes, just encouragement and passion, a backs-to-the-wall siege mentality, with a sense of unity between players and fans.

madgull

Colorado wrote: ↑17 Feb 2024, 19:38

That was on the 9th of February, before the Slough game. This is the same person on the 10th of February:

TommyGunn wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 17:53 The play offs are looking unlikely now.

I get people are frustrated, but that needs to be aimed at the right place - the board. Infighting only serves a future housing development on Plainmoor.

madgull

RedGull1902 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2024, 18:07 Totally amazes me there a some that think playoff are still a possibility !!!! Deluded! The season was over months agoand so it’s proved!!!! We need a new managerial set up and at least 12 new quality players in to at least give it a f—k site better go next year!!! All this don’t bother me too much now! Numb to it

I haven't seen anyone say this?

madgull

Scorpion wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024, 12:55 Unfortunately, I think a degree of realism is called for.

Torquay United have historically been a Football League club for a long time, but the support level isn't really there to sustain an EFL club without additional funding. Can't remember the last time Torquay got close to an average of 3000 fans at games in a season. A lot of EFL clubs' money comes from TV revenue or Premier League solidarity payments, but the problem with having dropped out of the league years ago is that the club no longer receive either. Two bigger -league - clubs on either side. So Torquay are looking for players not good enough to play for Exeter and probably not good enough to play for Yeovil either, given that most of them have to drive through Somerset to get to Devon and I get the impression that YTFC are prepared to pay more money.

I can't berate Clark Osborn for not being willing to plough a fortune in to the club as I don't see anyone else prepared to do it either. He is reportedly investing sufficient money to keep the team professional, and IF he is doing that without saddling the club with debt, then he has my gratitude.

If we're honest, a lot of the current dissatisfaction comes from the fact that as fans we think of TUFC as being "too big" for the National League South. I do feel the club should be doing better than it is, as most clubs in the National League South do not have the resources of Torquay United, but I don't see that the club's inability to do so is the fault of the owner. It's all very well just knee-jerk firing the manager, but unless you can get someone else better in you've accomplished nothing.

A very good post, and I'd add that it's players who not only aren't good enough for Exeter or Yeovil, but also who are willing to take the risk of uprooting from the network of pro and semi-pro clubs in the South East.

Moving away from employment prospects, probably for less money than you could make playing part-time with a half-decent "regular" job, isn't something that many people are willing to do for a one-year contract at a troubled club.

We also aren't going to get any decent youth prospects come to us, because again why would you when there is the outstanding Exeter in one direction, and Plymouth the other?

We're left with the dregs at every level. We were a more inviting prospect when we were in League 2/National League (or at least bouncing between them), and there wasn't a massive cost-of-living crisis, AND we were still developing players and selling them to bigger clubs. Unfortunately, we seem to have slipped below the "worth the risk" line for the established players we so desperately need.

madgull

Skillsy wrote: ↑29 Dec 2023, 18:31 Just because it's been going on since football was conceived doesn't make it right, even more so against your own team. Bonkers.

Abuse/criticism will adversely affect the vast majority of players.....maybe Ross Marshall is one of the few who has enough character to rise above it, and may even improve his performances in future.

Good on you, Ross.

Could say that the concept of "don't give it if you can't take it" is not a latter day phenomenon. Love how our big hard fans get OOOHHHH OFFENNDDDEEDDD when a player (rightfully) gives it back.

madgull

Top of the form table, second-most goals scored, 4th in the league and 5 points off the top (albeit Yeovil have two games in hand), 5 points ahead of the non-playoff places. If we can keep this up over Christmas with our injury worries, we'll be in with a shout!

madgull

Glad to see Jamie Reid still hasn't "found his level". When I think of the stick he got for years being shoved out on the left wing, and the amount of bitter people who still claimed he was overrated when doing well for us, it makes me wonder how many people just love to hate us!

madgull

UnitedinDevon wrote: ↑18 Nov 2023, 15:00 Bring in a left sided defender

Put them on the bench

Play RB Crowe as a LB

GJ masterclass

More masterclasses plz!

madgull

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑30 Sep 2023, 17:20 No moans?

Something about the true test being the next match / 5 games / judge him after 20 games (LOL), we haven't played anyone good yet / even if we're in the Premier league in 10 seasons its despite GJ not cos of him..........did I hit all of the themes yet?

madgull

happytorq wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 20:09 I confess I dont know much about house building, but 150 houses? On the land upon which Plainmoor currently sits?! I don't understand how there's the space for that.

That's from a quick (and equally amateur) Google maps look comparing to some of the terraced houses nearby, but imagine in reality there will be at least a couple of flat blocks perhaps, probs even more profitable that way....

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