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Plainmoor78 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2017, 04:59You are never going to build a new stadium in less than three years.

Osborne hasn't built a single stadium in over thirty years ~ ever; not one!

Well there we have it. A statement saying a stadium built in less than 3 years. This is indeed an important comment. You are all right to be sceptical. What with the new drainage/flood regulations that came out in April (the percolation tests alone would take over 12 months) building on made up ground, building on contaminated ground etc, you are closer to a decade before any new ground manifests itself. This is a huge mistake by the new owners. I would say it is IMPOSSIBLE for a new ground to be built in three years. It is either a downright lie and they are trying to have people over or they are so out of touch with planning as to be unbelievably incompetent.

samuel wrote: ↑18 Jul 2017, 09:29 I would say it is IMPOSSIBLE for a new ground to be built in three years. It is either a downright lie and they are trying to have people over or they are so out of touch with planning as to be unbelievably incompetent.

Well it's definitely not the latter!

How do we know that the process has not already started? maybe started when they first invested into the club, 12 months ago. lets be honest neither GI or the council have been transparent with the dealings with Plainmoor so far.

A Freedom of Information request to the council planning department would reveal whether any pre-application enquiry has been made. Councils notify pre-application applicants that should a Freedom of Information request is made they have to disclose details. Even if they started 12 months ago, the time scale is just nonsense. 5 years minimum - more likely closer to 10 - if it ever happens.

goody2449 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2017, 10:15 let's be honest.....

Yes let's be honest; a drum we have been banging on BTPIR ever since we set up in business in 2010........

This site too has it's dissenters of the 'official line' which proclaimed that the club Thea Bristow extricated herself from was 'debt free' as Kelvin Thomas unsuccessfully attempted to convince us; or anyone remotely interested in buying it off her for that matter. Dave Phillips told us that 'GI would not be the new owners of the club' which tells us all we need to know about him and now Clarke Osborne foretells a new stadium, ready and waiting for United by 2020.

Little sign of that openness or honesty from the football club under it's TWO different ownerships since then; nor from the Herald Express and what the fans' forums have predicted to pass has indeed passed.

Osborne would never have been making his claim about Plainmoor being safe until any new facility is ready and waiting if we hadn't kicked up holy shit on the forums

Were it not for genuine due diligence, investigation and research by those utilising social media; those who do not of it would be as naively in LaLa Land as those who don't ~ and sadly they make up far too big a percentage of the support to be comfortable about......thankfully, national media interest eventually went viral so that the whole world then knew about it and the Mayor had to act accordingly.

Dilligence, awareness and intense scrutiny are still required to ensure that sweeteners like shiny new kits, redesigned badges and websites, and promises of the academy being more than just a local development exercise do not cloud the issue over the long term security of the football club both within it's community and in it's secure and safe home being endangered by secretive local bureaucracy and possibly disingenuous 'investment'.

If the football club really is in loving and caring hands, then fine; but at the moment it's a bit like opening the front door to the child minder and being faced with Jimmy Saville!