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A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 21:39
by MellowYellow
Smurthwaite does not do consortiums! More chance of it being a Dean Edwards consortium with some of his Wolves buddies. Were run by consortium now, so lots to look forward too then ?

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 21:58
by Dazza
Try not to smile too much. Go chase a negative...

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Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 22:06
by Gulliball
A deal close to completion, not involving GI or Pete Masters and with people not looking to develop the ground is certainly welcome news. Fingers crossed now that the deal gets done and the new owners are people with a genuine interest in the club.

We've had 4 years of misery and are at the lowest point in our history. But we have a good fanbase, a good ground and facilities and a good manager who is working hard to rebuild the club on and off the pitch. All the building blocks are there, we just need some stability to start re-building the club and give the people of Torquay something they can be proud to support.

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 22:25
by Dazza
Totally agree Gulliball.

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Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 22:26
by Fred Perry
That is Solihull Moors supporters !!!...

We do HAVE ex Birmingham, Villa , WBA fans :

Who could NOT relate to their players on sky high wages and grounds becoming devoid of any real atmosphere.

At least , in the National League, players mix with their Supporters in the Club Bar and such like , less crowd segregation and less " plastic seat stadiums " to visit without any real character!!!.

FC United of Manchester probably best non - league ground for 70's style atmosphere, without the agro.

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 22:54
by Fred Perry
Unfortunately, you will not be able to get :

Jasper Carrott
Ozzy Osborne
The Bull Ring Shopping Centre
Slade
Frank Skinner
Cadburys
NEC
Land Rover & Jaguar car plant at Solihull.

They ARE our " Midlands Consortium " !!!.

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Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 23:24
by gullpower
Gulliball wrote:A deal close to completion, not involving GI or Pete Masters and with people not looking to develop the ground is certainly welcome news. Fingers crossed now that the deal gets done and the new owners are people with a genuine interest in the club.

We've had 4 years of misery and are at the lowest point in our history. But we have a good fanbase, a good ground and facilities and a good manager who is working hard to rebuild the club on and off the pitch. All the building blocks are there, we just need some stability to start re-building the club and give the people of Torquay something they can be proud to support.
And who knows, maybe a local derby 30 mins up the road to boot - COYY! :scarf:

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Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 00:17
by PhilGull
The Midlands? Smurthwaite, Dean Edwards and GI are all Midlands based - Christ, it could be a consortium of them all! :(

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:06
by Soupdragon
Dazza wrote:I think the Board need to be congratulated for all their hard work whether this comes to anything or not. A lot of uninformed flack has been flung there way and it must be bloody hurtful. Right or wrong they have always acted in the clubs interest . Its easy to slag people off - i very much hope that when a history of the club gets written at its next anniversary these people get a chapter of their own.
I hope all well this week for the club and for them
"Uninformed flak" or simply some of us facing up to reality?

"...they have always acted in the club's interest." Again, hindsight shows they haven't. It needs only one example among the many available: failing to run the club within its means so they have to go cap in hand to a property developer (and others), putting the club in hock.

I have no doubt they have managed things to the best of their ability. It's just that that hasn't been best for our club.

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Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 09:27
by Bomber
PhilGull wrote:The Midlands? Smurthwaite, Dean Edwards and GI are all Midlands based - Christ, it could be a consortium of them all! :(
GI are based in Swindon, so therefore not Midlands and to the best of my knowledge Dean Edwards is still based in Torbay, but apparently was contemplating relocating home to Wolverhampton a while ago.

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Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 18:19
by Southampton Gull
Soupdragon wrote: "Uninformed flak" or simply some of us facing up to reality?

"...they have always acted in the club's interest." Again, hindsight shows they haven't. It needs only one example among the many available: failing to run the club within its means so they have to go cap in hand to a property developer (and others), putting the club in hock.

I have no doubt they have managed things to the best of their ability. It's just that that hasn't been best for our club.
I can't speak for others but I've never posted uninformed flak and if the truth hurts then so be it.

This board might be full of well intentioned people but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind they've not been up to the job and have deliberately kept information from the fans for fear of the backlash. I stated on here that Nicholson was working without a contract despite the fact that there was an article on the OS stating it had been signed. Low and behold we're then told it was signed a few weeks previously. They allowed Dean Edwards the opportunity to hold them to ransom, they allowed GI to manoeuvre themselves into a position where they could dictate such ridiculous conditions for a loan. They repeated the mistake of letting most of the fans buy a ridiculously low season ticket allowing entry at 40% of the normal entry price and now we have a Stadium Manager running a Fans Forum as well as dealing with potential takeovers.

It's been a catalogue of mistakes that have left us with precious little time to appraise prospective buyers. I have zero faith in this board to do what is right for the club. Quite how some can say they at least deserve to get their investment back is beyond me, who in their right mind invests in a football club and expects to get that money back? Perhaps a naive but well intentioned racecourse bookie........

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 20:36
by Gullscorer
:goodpost:

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Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 20:46
by nickbrod
Southampton Gull wrote: I can't speak for others but I've never posted uninformed flak and if the truth hurts then so be it.

This board might be full of well intentioned people but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind they've not been up to the job and have deliberately kept information from the fans for fear of the backlash. I stated on here that Nicholson was working without a contract despite the fact that there was an article on the OS stating it had been signed. Low and behold we're then told it was signed a few weeks previously. They allowed Dean Edwards the opportunity to hold them to ransom, they allowed GI to manoeuvre themselves into a position where they could dictate such ridiculous conditions for a loan. They repeated the mistake of letting most of the fans buy a ridiculously low season ticket allowing entry at 40% of the normal entry price and now we have a Stadium Manager running a Fans Forum as well as dealing with potential takeovers.

It's been a catalogue of mistakes that have left us with precious little time to appraise prospective buyers. I have zero faith in this board to do what is right for the club. Quite how some can say they at least deserve to get their investment back is beyond me, who in their right mind invests in a football club and expects to get that money back? Perhaps a naive but well intentioned racecourse bookie........
Well said. My feelings too.

A Midlands Consortium

Posted: 21 Nov 2016, 22:39
by Glostergull
last time we had a midlands investor it was Roberts who conned a midlands man out of his pension. Will wait to hear who it is first before i get excited

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Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 15:37
by tomogull
On the TFF Forum, it is said that the Midlands Consortium deal has fallen through. There is nothing on the H.E. website nor the official website to substantiate this. Does anyone on here - the proper Forum - know anything? Or is it just Forum- speak ?