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Southampton Gull wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 15:27 You've tried to get what out of me? I've laid all the information out on here many times so if you're unaware that isn't my fault. I actually agree with a lot of what BigDave says except that he credits Osbo(u)rne whereas I don't.

I was given information at the time, in confidence, and by someone who should know....... I have always held that confidence but posted what I could at every opportunity. If he or she wants to divulge any more to satisfy your blinkered curiosity then that's up to them.

Talee, the point of this forum is to discuss matters, if you don't like what is being said then scroll on by instead of adding a pointless view, especially considering your continued arguments with Yeofan.

I don't credit Osborne - I just recognise that Armageddon might have arrived a hell of a lot earlier without his investment regardless of his motives.

happytorq wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 15:43 I dunno - if your argument boils down to "but Hitler actually got a lot right!", it feels like you're onto a loser.

The argument isn't that "Hitler actually got a lot right" the argument is that some things which were beneficial for Germany were developed whilst Hitler was in power regardless of his motivation or influence etc. In the same way it was beneficial for TUFC to be able to exist as a football club in a national league regardless of the motive for Osborne's investment.

BigDave wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 16:17 The argument isn't that "Hitler actually got a lot right" the argument is that some things which were beneficial for Germany were developed whilst Hitler was in power regardless of his motivation or influence etc. In the same way it was beneficial for TUFC to be able to exist as a football club in a national league regardless of the motive for Osborne's investment.

Please stop! To align the existence of TUFC to a man who tried to redefine German socialism to control and harm other people has the intellectual equivalence of discovering there was no Santa Claus.

BigDeluder needs a reality check

MellowYellow wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 16:33 Please stop! To align the existence of TUFC to a man who tried to redefine German socialism to control and harm other people has the intellectual equivalence of discovering there was no Santa Claus.

Read and inwardly digest before making a comment which shows that you do not understand the point that is being made, especially when you have just exploded the urban myth that Clarke Osborne has a long white beard, wears a funny red suit and has his office at the North Pole. Of course there is no correlation between Hitler and Osborne but whilst Armstrong might not have walked on the Moon if Adolf had copped a fatal bullet on the Western Front, it could also be argued that TUFC might no longer exist if Uncle Clarke had pulled the plug seven years earlier than he did and that play-off drama and the solitary championship would never have occurred.

Boring this, Osborne knew what he wanted, he did not care in the slightest about the football club or its supporters.

BigDave is clearly a wind up merchant. Can we all resist the urge to respond further and avoid this previously interesting thread becoming completely sidetracked!

On the basis that the Bristows threw money at the club until it ran out, then Osborne did pretty much the same, what does the future hold? Between them, the investment must head towards £10 million with little or nothing to show in terms of on field achievements.
Part time football, possibly at a lower level seems to be the only way forward.

RobinStubbsHero wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 19:04 On the basis that the Bristows threw money at the club until it ran out, then Osborne did pretty much the same, what does the future hold? Between them, the investment must head towards £10 million with little or nothing to show in terms of on field achievements.
Part time football, possibly at a lower level seems to be the only way forward.

£10 million to win the National League South Championship represents good value for money if you consider the millions that must have been spent since 1927 to win ... nothing! Only being a windup merchant - you are probably correct as TUFC have been living beyond their means for years.

RobinStubbsHero wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 19:04 On the basis that the Bristows threw money at the club until it ran out, then Osborne did pretty much the same, what does the future hold? Between them, the investment must head towards £10 million with little or nothing to show in terms of on field achievements.
Part time football, possibly at a lower level seems to be the only way forward.

Absolutely true. Hence the club needing to be run sustainably with focus on medium to long term rather than trying to buy immediate success. The post Bateson era has proved this to be needed but still people are knocking TUST and wanting to gamble on Masters, Hayman etc. Crazy!

knightmaregull wrote: ↑08 Apr 2024, 20:43 Absolutely true. Hence the club needing to be run sustainably with focus on medium to long term rather than trying to buy immediate success. The post Bateson era has proved this to be needed but still people are knocking TUST and wanting to gamble on Masters, Hayman etc. Crazy!

If my memory is more than partially correct a considerable amount of the money that Thea Bristow invested went into the construction of Bristows bench, a fitting monument no doubt, however I do remember that season we were still in the league but struggling badly, if only half of the cost of bristows had been invested into the team ,well i suspect we would still have been in the league, I do appreciate the old stand had been rightly condemned and what was left was a serious fire hazard but there was no urgency to re build at that time and on such a grandeous level, but it seemed a new stand was more inportant than league survival it has never been full to this day, we could have lived with a three sided ground, look at Oxford united. I suspect she was badly advised by people who took advantage for their own benefit but that seems to be a recurring theme in one form or another where Torquay is concerned.

I'd imagine they wanted a permanent structure to be remembered by, rather than a time slot in people's memories of them owning the club.

Skillsy, just tell us what you've heard, not these vague allusions of knowledge.

No problem Skillsy, apologies if I sounded frustrated.

Think we all just want to know if we'll have a football club next season, then we can worry about full/part time, the division we're in and the ability of the owners to move us forward.

Hopefully the owners will communicate with total transparency, fed up with hidden agendas and trying to second guess people's true intentions.

Torquay United AFC is pleased to advise its supporters that a preferred bidder to take over the Club has now been identified.

Following on from the announcement last Friday that Scott Kippax, Neil Vinnicombe and Simon Haskew of Begbies Traynor have been appointed as joint administrators of the Club, extensive work and discussions have been taking place behind the scenes over the past few days.

Out of the firm bids received by TUFC, one party has now been identified as the preferred bidder.

Although the preferred bidder will remain confidential at this stage, this news is the latest, and perhaps most significant yet, towards securing the Club’s long-term future.

We will continue to provide supporters with further updates as and when possible, however in the meantime, we would like to place on record our thanks to all bidding parties, the Club’s staff, National League, Sport England, Lloyds Bank, Club’s creditors and most of all our beloved supporters for their hard work, assistance, generosity and patience during the past two months.



https://torquayunited.com/club-update-p ... -selected/

Good news, hopefully!

Seeing as they like to still remain anonymous, that would mean that it won’t be the TUST.

Please please don’t let it be Edwards.