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The next General Election: who will you vote for?

Post by Gullscorer » 28 Jun 2016, 12:50

Only five days since the EU Referendum and the money markets have more or less recovered from their initial post-referendum turbulence. Investments and currencies always fluctuate in value; sometimes these fluctuations require intervention by Governments and banks, sometimes not. This recent turbulence has been blamed by pro-EU campaigners on Brexit (their own campaign scare tactics of course had nothing to do with it). Yet nothing has happened in the last five days; life has simply carried on; we have not even formally notified the EU of the UK’s decision to leave. All that happened was the market adjusting to the manipulations and speculations of those who control the money, and business decisions taken on the basis of fear and emotion rather than the entrepreneurial seizing of opportunities.

David Cameron has, as we know, resigned as Prime Minister and the Conservatives are divided. Jeremy Corbyn faces a ‘no confidence’ motion in a bid to remove him as Labour leader. Of 601 Members of Parliament, 454 supported the ‘Remain’ campaign to stay in the EU. Never in living memory, not even during the previous referendum in 1975, has Parliament been so divorced from the majority views of its electorate. Many of them believe in democracy so much that they are prepared to disregard these views and will vote against Brexit measures in the House of Commons.

The Scottish SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon and their former leader Alex Salmond, having lost the referendum in 2014 which decided to keep Scotland as part of the UK, are refusing to accept this democratic decision and are appealing to the EU to keep Scotland in the EU! They cannot see the irony of Scotland wanting independence from their logical and sensible partnership with the UK whilst being prepared to subsume their country into an increasingly undemocratic EU superstate. And they appear to want an Independence Referendum every couple of years until they get the result they want. As do many EU Remain campaigners, not least today’s young people and students who have been subjected to pro-EU and other ideological propaganda in the education system all their lives.

Amidst all this chaos, it has been forecast that the next general election will be sooner rather than later. And in the coming election the Referendum will continue to be a major issue. Will voters take this into account when choosing their MPS, either pro or anti-EU? Or will they simply maintain their old party loyalties? Will Sarah Wollaston, Kevin Foster, and Anne-Marie Morris lose their seats? Will UKIP, who, with their leader Nigel Farage, were sidelined during the campaign by the media and the official Leave campaign, disappear completely, or will they make massive gains? And what about Scotland, the Greens and the Lib-Dems?

Discuss.

Remember, every vote counts..


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Post by PhilGull » 28 Jun 2016, 13:07

The next General Election isn't for another four years (unless there is a vote of no-confidence in the current Parliament which I cannot see happening).
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Post by Gullscorer » 28 Jun 2016, 13:29

You're right Phil, in normal circumstances the next General Election would not take place until 2020. But, given the current state of politics in the UK and in the EU, we are not living in normal times (one could say they're 'the best of times and the worst of times'), hence the speculation regarding an early General Election.

The Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 provides for general elections to be held on the first Thursday in May every five years.

However, there are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals:

· a motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed

· a motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)

(http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elec ... g/general/)

In the current political chaos, the possibility of this happening has increased enough to cause concern and speculation in the media and political circles. But whatever the date of the next election, it will take place following, or even during, a seismological shift in British and European politics, and its outcome will be more than usually uncertain.


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Post by Gullscorer » 29 Jun 2016, 12:41

Ipsos MORI poll 22 June 2016: political parties and leaders: satisfaction with leaders:

Nigel Farage: 38%, David Cameron 35%, Jeremy Corbyn 27%, Tim Farron 19%, the Government: 32%

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpubl ... abour.aspx


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Post by Gullscorer » 18 Apr 2017, 11:40

General Election to be held on 8 June 2017, somewhat later than I thought it would be: I had a feeling it would be last autumn. But it must be admitted that Theresa May has got it spot on, and the Conservatives are in a strong position.

I presumed the Government would repeal the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act 2011 (and with a working majority of around 17 they would have carried the day), but the Labour Party have announced they will vote with the Government to dissolve Parliament. Turkeys voting for Christmas? :-)

Many will say that this decision has been made solely for party political gain, but of course, with Parliament so divided on the issue, this election is really all about Brexit and the national interest. Bring it on..

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04 ... -election/


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Post by Glostergull » 18 Apr 2017, 14:22

This Poll has now taken on new significance since the general election was called today. But I'm am afraid i cannot vote because one important option was omitted. DONT KNOW. I haven't had time to think about this. other more pressing things have been on my mind. so can someone please add don't know to the list. (or i will vote monster raving loony party)
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Post by Gullscorer » 18 Apr 2017, 15:09

Sitting on the fence, Glos ? Well, you could go for the 'other' option. Otherwise, you have over seven weeks in which to make up your mind. No need to rush.. :-)


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Post by Plainmoor78 » 18 Apr 2017, 15:54

You need to start a new post, because most of the votes in the poll were cast last year.


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Post by Orange Gull » 18 Apr 2017, 20:19

Gullscorer wrote:
18 Apr 2017, 11:40

Many will say that this decision has been made solely for party political gain
And they would be right.


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Post by ManxGull » 18 Apr 2017, 20:37

isn't that politics 1o1 these days cos it defiantly not about the people


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Post by Gullscorer » 18 Apr 2017, 22:22

Plainmoor78 wrote:
18 Apr 2017, 15:54
You need to start a new post, because most of the votes in the poll were cast last year.
Anyone who has already voted in this poll can always change their vote at any time.

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Post by EmetEdadsBeard » 19 Apr 2017, 18:38

So after saying quite catergorically that there wouldn't be an election before 2020, May see's her disgusting party 25 points up and...........calls a General election! And (as I vote) 88% are voting Tory! EIGHTY EIGHT PERCENT FFS!!!!!


How can you tell when an MP (and especially a Tory MP) is lying?


Their f**kin' lips are moving :@
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Post by Gullscorer » 19 Apr 2017, 20:42

Why especially a Tory MP? MPs of any persuasion may tell the truth as they see it, but may at the same time be totally deluded (especially Labour/LibDem/Green MPs).

Anyway, pro-Brexit tactical voting is the only way to go..


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Post by ManxGull » 19 Apr 2017, 22:18

you might want to add our soon to be prime minister mother Teresa to the deluded list after her shared society spiel " we have a responsibility to help and look after each other in society" but were just going to cut the help to those on the lowest on the social scale. and pro brexit tactical voteing? each to there own lol


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