The European Union: We're out...!!!

[Southampton Gull]

Thought I would throw this out there.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.

I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.

Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea,
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party.
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down.
3/ You don't think it matters.

[Gullscorer]

[Gullscorer]

On Sunday, the next Formula One Grand Prix world championship race will be held. They're calling it - surprise, surprise, four days before the EU referendum vote - The European Grand Prix..!!

In previous years the European Grand Prix has taken place within Europe, in varying months of the year. Where is it being held this year? In Europe? Oh no. It's taking place in Baku, Azerbaijan. In Asia!

I believe Bernie Ecclestone is still CEO of the company which controls the sport (Delta Topco, which is deeply in debt) but he does not own it. However, he has stated his desire for the UK to leave the EU. Delta Topco is actually owned by the Formula One Group, which in turn is owned by various investors - major capitalists - and which owns other companies controlling various aspects of the sport. Investors such these have a major interest in the EU, which works closely - behind closed doors - with the world's biggest capitalists and global corporations.

David Cameron announced the date of the referendum last February. But you can bet your life all the plans for this year's events, both sporting and political, were made some time before. So is this simply a co-incidence? Of course it is. Or is it another pathetic psychological attempt to sway the minds of a few more voters towards the 'Remain' vote? Of course not. Perish the thought.

So the Asian - sorry, European - Grand Prix, at this particular time, has nothing to do with any conspiracy, however minor. After all, it's not the EU Grand Prix.

But a rose by any other name would smell just as much. And if it looks like one, smells like one, quacks like one...

I love conspiracy theories..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_Group
http://bilderbergmeetings.org/press-release.html
http://bilderbergmeetings.org/frequentl ... tions.html

[Trojan 67]

Here are a few that strongly believe the UK should remain a member of the EU:

• Governor of the Bank of England : :whip:

• International Monetary Fund :whip:

• Institute for Fiscal Studies :whip:

• Confederation of British Industry :whip:

• Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU :whip:

• President of the United States of America :whip:

• Eight former US Treasury Secretaries :whip:

• President of China :whip:

• Prime Minister of India :whip:

• Prime Minister of Canada :whip:

• Prime Minister of Japan :whip:

• Prime Minister of New Zealand :whip:

• The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including
Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc. :whip:

• Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations :whip:

• All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties) :whip:

• Virtually all reputable and recognised economists :whip:

• The Prime Minister of the UK :whip:

• The leader of the Labour Party :whip:

• The Leader of the Liberal Democrats :whip:

• The Leader of the Green Party :whip:

• The Leader of the Scottish National Party :whip:

• The leader of Plaid Cymru :whip:

• Leader of Sinn Fein :whip:

• Martin Lewis, that money saving dude off the telly :whip:

• The Secretary General of the TUC :whip:
• Unison :whip:

• National Union of Students :whip:

• National Union of Farmers :whip:

• Stephen Hawking :whip:

• Chief Executive of the NHS :whip:

• 300 of the most prominent international historians :whip:

• Director of Europol :whip:

• David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation :whip:

• Former Directors of GCHQ :whip:

• Secretary General of Nato :whip:

• Church of England :whip:

• Church in Scotland :whip:

• Church in Wales :whip:

• Friends of the Earth :whip:

• Greenpeace :whip:

• Director General of the World Trade Organisation :whip:

• WWF :whip:

• World Bank :whip:

• OECD :whip:



Here are pretty much the only notable people who think we should leave the EU:

• Boris Johnson

• Donald Trump

• David Icke

[Gullscorer]

Trojan, you've left out a lot of notable people who support Brexit! You've posted a long list of the rich and powerful global elite who will of course support the remain campaign: it is in their interests and those of their friends in this exclusive club to support the Remain campaign, and anyone associated with them will be bribed, threatened, coerced, or blackmailed into giving their support.

It follows that the EU is not, and was never set up to be in the interests of ordinary people. Vote 'Leave'.

Meanwhile, here are some EU myths: http://www.ukipdaily.com/10-myths-eu-busted/

[Dave]

That's the thing, as we've said time and time again, a lot of the people or organisations in Trojan's list are either part funded by the British government, part funded by the EU, or in some cases both, or have a vested interest so are not fully independent. Now the former governor of the bank of England, free from political pressure and more independent that most says this;

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ervyn-King

If your undecided, or wavering between on or the other, please click the link and have quick read.

[Trojan 67]

David Icke



Icke David playing the "Dwight" man (operation over Lord)

[Trojan 67]

Trojan, you've left out a lot of notable people who support Brexit! You've posted a long list of the rich and powerful global elite who will of course support the remain campaign: it is in their interests and those of their friends in this exclusive club to support the Remain campaign, and anyone associated with them will be bribed, threatened, coerced, or blackmailed into giving their support.

It follows that the EU is not, and was never set up to be in the interests of ordinary people. Vote 'Leave'.

Meanwhile, here are some EU myths: http://www.ukipdaily.com/10-myths-eu-busted/

You omitted Number 6 (the one who refuses to be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or NUMBERED) to point out those who will not be bribed etc will be "accidentally" murdered, oops, die unnaturally of natural causes.

[Trojan 67]

WHY CAN’T PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH?
This question is best answered by Don Harkins (died 19th September 2009) editor of The Idaho Observer:

“Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth — even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples´ inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don´t want to see” what is really going on.

Extremely evil men and women who make up the world´s power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.

The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship´s castle.

Finally, I understand why.

It´s not that those who don´t see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don´t want to see it” — they simply can´t see what is happening to them because of the unpierced veils that block their view.

All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports are one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October.

Behind the first veil: There are over 7 billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.”

Indeed it can be said that less than 1% of the world’s 7 billion humans ever pierce all nine veils, and it would appear that even this small minority is ever-shrinking. In order to keep the “virtual pasture” green, the global elite also successfully bribe many who have pierced multiple veils, in order to misdirect others who may be approaching truth in many areas. I call this simply intellectual prostitution – selling the birthright of Universal Truth for a worthless mess of pottage. The gilded glitz of wealth, fame and social elevation have seduced many a gifted intellectual.

With full credit given to Don Harkins, here now are the newly updated “Nine Veils”.

The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, become active and develop an opinion. Our opinions will be shaped by the physical world around us; we will have been “conditioned” from our days in public education to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

The second veil: Ten percent of us will also pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

The third veil: Ten percent of those who pierce the second veil, will eventually pierce the third veil to conclusively find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the entire world´s economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.

The fourth veil: Ten percent will then pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry, and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.

The fifth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the very thoughts and even the very actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. As in the days of Noah, this technology is even creating synthetic life forms, as man seeks to displace God. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.

The sixth veil: Ten percent will progress to pierce the sixth veil where we learn the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real indeed and are in reality the actual controlling forces behind the secret societies uncovered in the fourth veil. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.

The seventh veil: Ten Percent will progress to pierce the 7th veil where the incredible world of fractal geometry and the universal law of numbers will be fully understood and embraced. The creative force of the entire universe will be shown to be linked to numerical code formulas and sequences, and all “mysteries” including the very fabric of time, space, parallel universes, and access therein is unlocked. Those whose intellects allow them to pierce the seventh veil often succumb to the lure and promise of massive wealth offered by the ruling elite, and thus over ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the eighth veil.

The eighth veil: Piercing the eighth veil reveals God and the pure energy known as LOVE that is the pure life force in all living things – which are one and the same. Deep-seated Humility is needed in order to ever pierce this veil.

The ninth veil: Piercing the ninth veil means perfecting the pure energy known as love and thereby becoming truly one with God and His/Her formulations. By perfecting this pure energy, one then fully embraces charity and therein gains full understanding of the universal plan of sacrifice, death, and redemption; life itself then becomes complete and one truly comes full circle and looks at the world through the eyes of an innocent child, yet with the deepest wisdom born of pure LOVE from the eighth veil.

Consider this: If this theory is correct, there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have successfully pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as dangerously insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.

Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can’t, the more insane he appears to them. This truth is self-evident.

OUR ENEMY, THE STATE
Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justify the actions of politicians who send untold millions of first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder — their combined stations in life are simply to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security and are worth dying for.

Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite few. It is common also, for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce.

Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find and embrace the final two veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”

[Gullscorer]

'Seeing' in this context is actually enlightenment, expanded consciousness and understanding. Beyond each veil there is a positive path, or service to others, and a negative path, or service to self. Love and freedom, or slavery and fear.

[Trojan 67]

Nigel Farage :

[KeithMalone]

Get the cow off the boat!

[Gullscorer]

Our enemy, the superstate: http://www.ukipdaily.com/eu-is-a-frankenstein/

[BobBobBob]

LOL no way! Can someone call Cliff Thorburn please?

[Trojan 67]

Pat Condell at his best :