Survival: Could we do it?

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Survival: Could we do it?

Post by madgull » 21 Jan 2018, 18:18

I was looking at our run-in for this season, and perhaps I'm a fool, but I saw a glimmer of hope...but maybe it was just the metaphorical oncoming train of relegation. We have a a run of games against teams at the foot of the table, so a succession of six pointers are coming up. Assuming the high-flying teams just destroy us, but that we can beat those around us and draw with mid-table/playoff challengers, we could see the following:

FIXTURE LIST:
A v Macclesfield (1st) 0 points
H v Barrow (20th) 3 points
A v Maidenhead (13th) 1 point
H v Dagenham & R(10th) 1 point
H v Sutton (3rd) 0 points
A v Leyton Orient (19th) 3 points
H v AFC Fylde (9th) 1 point
A v Maidstone (14th) 1 point
A v Solihull Moors (21st) 3 points
H v Guiseley (23rd) 3 points
A v Chester (22nd) 3 points
H v Woking (16th) 3 points
A v Dover (6th) 1 point
H v Halifax (17th) 3 points
A v Hartlepool (18th) 3 points
H v Ebbsfleet (11th) 1 point

Total points gained: 30
Final points: 50...which might keep us up. Maybe.

Although, now I look back, at this stage last season York were only 25 points (five more than we have now!) and managed to come back to 50 points...they were still relegated. I'm not one for endless last chance saloons, but looking at the numbers, if we don't get anything at Macclesfield and then lose at home to fellow strugglers Barrow, I really can't see any way back. Hell, this is the only way I see to survival and it would require us to go 11 games unbeaten, so if I'm being honest I don't know if I see a way back anyway...


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Post by Yorkieandy » 21 Jan 2018, 18:30

Keep tweedle dum and tweedle dee at the helm and it's already over.

Get in a new manager asap who has experience then i wouldn't rule it out. The Barrow game must be won however.

No matter who is in charge, lose both Macc and Barrow and that's the last chance gone.
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Post by forevertufc » 21 Jan 2018, 18:40

Nope too late for a new manager now, he'd need a few games to asses the team, there would be even more wholesale in's and out's which would be counter productive at this stage, the only hope for a new manager would be some dead cat bounce. Think we're relying on Ower's finding the magical formula now, and not holding my breath on that one, to be fair he throw some money at trying to get a goal scorer didn't work out, he said we needed a hard man in midfield, we've managed to find a twinkled toed ponce, again to be fair the loss of Davey was huge, his replacement seems not fit for anything, let alone football.

I've said all along never give up, but sadly even I'm of the opinion that not even Mary Poppins can save us from this one.


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Post by Modgull » 21 Jan 2018, 18:51

No - its too late and we are too far from safety. I think by mid-March we will be confirmed relegated.
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Post by desperado » 21 Jan 2018, 19:06

20% think we can stay up ? - lunatics - if we had a team of fighters who showed some real guts and passion
(Young excepted) maybe , but we havent


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Post by Cruisinho » 21 Jan 2018, 19:30

There is no way in hell are we going to go 11 games unbeaten, and win 4 in a row.

And now barrow becomes the must win game, much like Bromley was.


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Post by desperado » 21 Jan 2018, 19:33

Madgull really living up to his name


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Post by Teigngull » 21 Jan 2018, 19:34

Hartlepool had a crowd of over 6800 yesterday,
If only we had that level of support for TUST then you'd see the antiperspirant shelves empty as well as the crisps in Wellswood.
We can certainly dream.


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Post by Plymouth Gull » 21 Jan 2018, 19:36

A decent chunk of them were Middlesbrough fans. Also helps having Jeff Stelling keeping the club relevant every week!


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Post by dannyrvtufc4life » 21 Jan 2018, 19:38

The Great Escape won't have an episode three, I'm afraid, we're on our way to the Conference South and have been for years. No manager can change this inevitability. It's just like Sunderland, flirting with the relegation zone, get a couple of great finishes to seasons and stay up by the skin of their teeth, but there's no way clubs can sustain that, it's just putting off the drop for a year or two. It's scary to see where said example are right now...
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Post by lucy6lucy » 21 Jan 2018, 20:02

madgull wrote:
21 Jan 2018, 18:18
I was looking at our run-in for this season, and perhaps I'm a fool, but I saw a glimmer of hope...but maybe it was just the metaphorical oncoming train of relegation. We have a a run of games against teams at the foot of the table, so a succession of six pointers are coming up. Assuming the high-flying teams just destroy us, but that we can beat those around us and draw with mid-table/playoff challengers, we could see the following:

FIXTURE LIST:
A v Macclesfield (1st) 0 points
H v Barrow (20th) 3 points
A v Maidenhead (13th) 1 point
H v Dagenham & R(10th) 1 point
H v Sutton (3rd) 0 points
A v Leyton Orient (19th) 3 points
H v AFC Fylde (9th) 1 point
A v Maidstone (14th) 1 point
A v Solihull Moors (21st) 3 points
H v Guiseley (23rd) 3 points
A v Chester (22nd) 3 points
H v Woking (16th) 3 points
A v Dover (6th) 1 point
H v Halifax (17th) 3 points
A v Hartlepool (18th) 3 points
H v Ebbsfleet (11th) 1 point

Total points gained: 30
Final points: 50...which might keep us up. Maybe.

Although, now I look back, at this stage last season York were only 25 points (five more than we have now!) and managed to come back to 50 points...they were still relegated. I'm not one for endless last chance saloons, but looking at the numbers, if we don't get anything at Macclesfield and then lose at home to fellow strugglers Barrow, I really can't see any way back. Hell, this is the only way I see to survival and it would require us to go 11 games unbeaten, so if I'm being honest I don't know if I see a way back anyway...
You’re predicting we go unbeaten after Macclesfield. You’re more mad than your username. I’ve not voted simply because there is no point. Wake up we are relegated already
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Post by madgull » 21 Jan 2018, 21:20

lucy6lucy wrote:
21 Jan 2018, 20:02
You’re predicting we go unbeaten after Macclesfield. You’re more mad than your username. I’ve not voted simply because there is no point. Wake up we are relegated already
'Hell, this is the only way I see to survival and it would require us to go 11 games unbeaten, so if I'm being honest I don't know if I see a way back anyway...'

Obviously no one seems to have read this line, I can't see it happening but it's the only way that I think we COULD survive. :}


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Post by Yorkieandy » 21 Jan 2018, 21:27

We could also survive if the players do the following:

1. Do what they are paid to do for once.
2. Ignore everything Owers tells them and trust their own instincts on the pitch.
3. Have some self respect and respect for those paying their wages by giving nothing than 100%.
4. Work their balls off.
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Post by westyorkshiregull » 21 Jan 2018, 21:46

We are .....on other hand we have come back from 6 points from 6 games before or so that leaves 10 games to gain 6 points

However easier said than done. I think we are down


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Post by Minneapolisgull » 21 Jan 2018, 23:36

Madgull I keep thinking the same if and when the survival run is going to start where could possibly pick up points ... I really thought a win yesterday would give us a slim chance, Maybe at last kick start some hope!!! But after yesterday mauling I have now resigned myself to relegation. Just hope with the remaining games we go down with some dignity..
The last couple of interview with Owers he seems he has lost the fight to, and looks resigned to relegation or losing his job.. Maybe bringing in a new manager might give us some bounce. But that seems very doubtful.
Saw his post match interview on the Torquay website... All you can really hear are the police sirens in the surrounding area! I had visions of the Police coming in and arresting Owers mid interview the crime impersonating a Football manager......

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