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Post by Dazza » 21 Jan 2018, 16:07

Why this obsession by Merse and others on Nicholson. There is no chance he will coming back. He clearly was disliked by new owners and sacked imv for reasons having nothing to do with football. Owers was appointed also for non footballing reasons. It took us 3 weeks to find someone who would agree with GI,s 'plans' for the club.


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Post by Goose9 » 21 Jan 2018, 16:10

Teigngull wrote:
21 Jan 2018, 15:58
If, and I hope it's a big if , Harrop ever entertained the idea of asking Nicholson to come back as first team manager that would be it for me.
I would relinquish all ties with the club completely ( Inc giving up my membership with TUST ).
I cannot think of a more backward step to take.
So ,yes, let's all accept we are going down & start planning for next season in the NLS. Tully wouldn't be such a bad shout surely.
Nearly a 3 month start on everyone else should give us a chance to compete competitively.
Eh? Who gave you the idea that was even an option?

It's well known that they never got along, Nicholson wouldn't come back to work with him and Harrop/Osborne wouldn't have him back.

Not a chance.


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Post by forevertufc » 21 Jan 2018, 16:23

Don't think it's an obsession, just some expressing opinions, in reaction to growing calls around the ground and across social media for him to be brought back.

Of course under the current ownership he's not coming back, he wouldn't be asked anyway as said. One would hope, in a future potential fan ownership that he wouldn't be asked to return as manager either.


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Post by Dazza » 21 Jan 2018, 16:23

Chew Magna to Bath is 15.2 miles. Hedges was the Chew Magna manager. Harrop is related to the great man. Enough said. We are in our worst football position in the history of the club for non footballing reasons.


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Post by lucy6lucy » 21 Jan 2018, 16:24

What is the length of Owers contract?
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Post by Teigngull » 21 Jan 2018, 16:32

Goose9, tell me did you attend yesterday's game ? If so did you or did you not hear the Nicholson fan club singing his name.
This club is run by deluded loons, it's chants like that that'll convince the likes of Harrop to try & appease the fans.
Lunacy pure lunacy


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Post by Yorkieandy » 21 Jan 2018, 16:33

lucy6lucy wrote:
21 Jan 2018, 16:24
What is the length of Owers contract?
As long as it takes him (and the others) to end the clubs existence i would guess.

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Post by Goose9 » 21 Jan 2018, 16:39

Teigngull, yes I was stood in the popside and yes I heard the chants.

The large proportion of the fanbase will have great respect for Nicholson for what he has done for the club over the years, I know I do. However, not many of them would be happy to see him back as a manager. The chants were no doubt made in a tongue in cheek way to try and voice their dissatisfaction with the current management set up.

Anyway, since when do the current ownership listen to the fans?


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Post by Teigngull » 21 Jan 2018, 20:44

I wouldn't be surprised at anything that Machiavellian would do.


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Post by 28flipflop » 21 Jan 2018, 21:55

this is my first post on this forum, but I have to say listening to his post match interviews it’s no surprise to hear the manager is often referred to as Gary D’Owers, is it any wonder the players seem lacking motivation ?


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Post by Yorkieandy » 01 Feb 2018, 18:10

Just wondered about the strength of feeling towards Owers with regards next season.

What IF he managed to perform the miracle and keep Torquay in the league. Would he deserve another crack at the whip and a full summer and would any of you support him?

Obviously we can only blame Nico for part of the problem but it has been the total managerial ineptness by Owers that has led to the club being rooted at the bottom of the league and nearly a full 30 points off the likes of Bromley, a tiny club averaging 600 home fans.

I'm not sure tbh. I think that if Owers turned things around against all the odds and kept the club up then perhaps on the face of it he would deserve to stay. Part of me would like to think i'm fair and would have to consider supporting this and give him a second chance but there is the suspicion that he has ties with CO and that is in the back of my mind regardless of anything football related.

IMO he should go for definite should the club be relegated and i dont think he could have any arguments about that unless he's deluded but if he keeps the club up then should he be supported and allowed to continue? Obviously it's not up to us but i just wondered how many fans would stop going if Owers DID keep his job and if the club survived the NL trapdoor.
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Post by Paignton boy » 01 Feb 2018, 18:26

I have to say that as a regular attendee at home games it did seem that together with Martin K The management duo did seem to be more professional than the previous regime. Not sure whether that is MK’s influence or GO himself. But recently it would seem that when things start going wrong during games MK leans against the fence more and GO doesn’t seem to know how to change things. So I am not sure! Let’s just hope we can stay up and then take stock?


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Post by Bloggy » 01 Feb 2018, 18:36

Four games seems to be the going rate.

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Post by SenorDingDong » 01 Feb 2018, 18:36

Yorkieandy wrote:
01 Feb 2018, 18:10
Just wondered about the strength of feeling towards Owers with regards next season.

What IF he managed to perform the miracle and keep Torquay in the league. Would he deserve another crack at the whip and a full summer and would any of you support him?

Obviously we can only blame Nico for part of the problem but it has been the total managerial ineptness by Owers that has led to the club being rooted at the bottom of the league and nearly a full 30 points off the likes of Bromley, a tiny club averaging 600 home fans.

I'm not sure tbh. I think that if Owers turned things around against all the odds and kept the club up then perhaps on the face of it he would deserve to stay. Part of me would like to think i'm fair and would have to consider supporting this and give him a second chance but there is the suspicion that he has ties with CO and that is in the back of my mind regardless of anything football related.

IMO he should go for definite should the club be relegated and i dont think he could have any arguments about that unless he's deluded but if he keeps the club up then should he be supported and allowed to continue? Obviously it's not up to us but i just wondered how many fans would stop going if Owers DID keep his job and if the club survived the NL trapdoor.
I wouldn't want him back for another season even if he keeps us up. He's been nothing but courteous to the fans and made a good impression as a person but he just doesn't seem to have 'it' as a manager and his 'contacts' in the transfer market seem to be much weaker than originally talked talked. As Tony Boyce once said, you need 'contacts' as a Torquay United manager. This being said I don't think we need to have this conversation as we're not going to stay up.


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Post by Rjc70 » 01 Feb 2018, 19:43

If he keeps us up, I would keep him as there would have been a marked turnaround on current fortunes in the right direction. Reassess after 10 matches of 2018/19. Seen nothing to suggest he will achieve that, though.

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