Torquay v Braintree Easter Monday

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Torquay v Braintree Easter Monday

Post by Goose9 » 17 Apr 2017, 18:17

It'll be interesting to see the replay of that offside call! I wasn't in a great position to judge but not sure why it took a good minute and a discussion with the ref after the goal was scored to make the decision. Glad it didn't matter too much in the end, if anything it spurred the lads on more.

Once again we see another whistle happy ref with an inability to let the game flow, very frustrating.

Pleased with the performance today, true determination shown and everyone played their part. It ain't over yet! COYY!!!


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Post by brucie » 17 Apr 2017, 18:18

Sounded like a fantastic atmosphere today. A crowd of 2600 is incredible in the circumstances but just confirms the potential we have and is more confirmation that we should just not be in the position that we are.

Whatever your feelings are on the players and management, given that we are playing matches with probably less than a half of a realistic bench you have got to say we have made a fair effort to get out of trouble really. You can't help feeling that over the last half a dozen matches we could quite easily have achieved a point or two more.

Dover is a tough place to go for sure and the odds might be stacked against us but as I said its a one game cup final so anything can happen - the league isn't the greatest that's.

Whilst it looked all up today I feel that we are ninety minutes away from staying up. Win at Dover and we will get in excess of 4000 for the last match.

The supporters just don't deserve those who are in charge of the club. Days like today make you realise what a crying shame it really is.
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Post by lucy6lucy » 17 Apr 2017, 18:20

Massive well done to Nicholson and the team today, we could quite easily have fallen apart going 1-0 down. Shows fight and desire in the team. Forget other results, we have no control on them, what we can control is own results. I and many thought aldershot was a hiding to nothing, likewise Lincoln ( they did to Gateshead today in identical manner to us). Dover is hardly playing Real Madrid. We have to go there and perform, a draw would be great. On to today, job done. COYY
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Post by TUST_Member_Rob » 17 Apr 2017, 18:28

Goose9 wrote:
17 Apr 2017, 18:17
It'll be interesting to see the replay of that offside call! I wasn't in a great position to judge but not sure why it took a good minute and a discussion with the ref after the goal was scored to make the decision. Glad it didn't matter too much in the end, if anything it spurred the lads on more.

Once again we see another whistle happy ref with an inability to let the game flow, very frustrating.

Pleased with the performance today, true determination shown and everyone played their part. It ain't over yet! COYY!!!
Reference the offside

*My view was that Keating headed the ball forward towards Williams - who looked offisde.
*The ball never made it to Williams and a mix up between 2 braintree defenders and the ball goes forward off a braintree player.
*Williams goes through and scores.
*Looks like the lino had made his mind up already before the ref went over.

The only thing i can think off is that the lino has deemed Williams 'active' when Keating headed it forward and his presence contrived for the Braintree mix up.

Why he didnt raise his flag before this i dont know, looked a poor decision though


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Post by Modgull » 17 Apr 2017, 18:29

What a great atmosphere - I said before the game that we needed the 12th man effect and they had it in spades. The support even when we went behind hardly wavered and towards the end Plainmoor was rocking.

All the players responded brilliantly - shame the officials could not also - at one stage I thought both sets of fans were going to boil over because of the rubbish decisions from the referee.

We lined up 4-3-3 and for the first time in ages I thought it worked, once we had found our mojo - I think the disallowed goal and the incompetent way the officials dealt with it really motivated the team and the result was rarely in doubt after that. The only thing I was worried about was the squandering of chances - we had 15 attempts and 9 on target but at one stage I thought we would be made to pay for our poor conversion rate and the woodwork did save us when we were 2-1 up.

However, we eventually got the two clear goals thanks to the generally excellent Jordan Lee and Brett Williams (my MOTM) who had a storming game throughout.

If we still go down at least I will have the memory of what football at Plainmoor can sometimes bring - passion, atmosphere, controversy and drama. Things that have been missing all too often this season.

Well done to Nicho and the team - go out and do it just twice more please guys!
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Post by gullintwoplaces » 17 Apr 2017, 18:30

Just home from a good day out at Plainmoor. The team gave their all in a very good performance. Well deserved win, against the odds and with a set of officials who I can only describe as clueless. Williams was robbed of a goal by an inept linesman and even more inept referee. Still, a good win and I am over the moon. The team deserve a big pat on the back, still alive.


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Post by kevgull » 17 Apr 2017, 18:44

DevonYellow wrote:
17 Apr 2017, 17:51
The players were immense today, never stopped going, despite a ref who was clueless and wanted to be the centre of everything.

The ground was buzzing and stuck with them right to the end cheering our lads to an all important third goal. It was great to be part of such a partisan crowd.

The front three of Williams, Keating and Reid worked tirelessly.

Special mention to the stewards as well who allowed the supporter who ran onto the pitch when we scored to be dragged back onto the popside by the celebrating fans. It was a common sense decision that, although against the rule book, stopped things from turning sour like the other week. Fair play.
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Post by lucy6lucy » 17 Apr 2017, 18:48

What's this about a Braintree fan ripping the net apart.
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Post by merse btpir » 17 Apr 2017, 18:52

gullintwoplaces wrote:
17 Apr 2017, 18:30
Williams was robbed of a goal by an inept linesman and even more inept referee.
I wasn't there and you were; BUT.......

If Williams was offside following Keates header earlier in the move; play carried on and then he ends up putting it in the net the lino is quite correct to flag and draw the referee's attention to that FACT

The current interpretation of the law deems that he keeps that instance in his mind and draws the referee's attention that a player has come back from an offside position having taken an active part in the play leading up to the goal . The law as it currently stands is thus the culprit and cause of many a late flag because the linesman is under instruction to hold his flag down unless needed later thus bringing shit loads of abuse down on him. I was only discussing this with a lino and ref after a Ryman League game yesterday and they said that to a man (and lady) they all regret the day the interpretation was ever brought in.

But brought in it was and they have no option but to administer the law as it is written........it's not their fault!
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Post by Modgull » 17 Apr 2017, 18:53

lucy6lucy wrote:
17 Apr 2017, 18:48
What's this about a Braintree fan ripping the net apart.
Yes. He got angry when Young went to collect the ball from the back of the net. I think Youngy wound him up which is why he got booked. The guy was escorted out - it took four stewards to get him under control.

Incidentally, Young then threw his water bottle at the feet of the fourth official - not sure it was accidental - hope he doesn't get reported.
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Post by Taelee73 » 17 Apr 2017, 18:54

When we equalised, think a Torquay player tried to get the ball back from behind the net, some sort of rumpus between him and an extremely overweight away supporter, didn't see how the net was damaged. But was quite fun to watch the stewards struggling to throw (well maybe escort) the Braintree guy out. He was a big boy.

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Post by rickl » 17 Apr 2017, 18:56

According to Chris Fleet the lino had not raised his flag when the ball went in. Now I am not sure how long before this that Williams had possession of the ball and if the lino had enough time to raise his flag.
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Post by merse btpir » 17 Apr 2017, 19:03

rickl wrote:
17 Apr 2017, 18:56
According to Chris Fleet the lino had not raised his flag when the ball went in. Now I am not sure how long before this that Williams had possession of the ball and if the lino had enough time to raise his flag.
See my post above as to what possibly might have been the reason. Remember the officials are 'mic'd' up and so could well be in communication even though the flag has not been used.


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Post by Goose9 » 17 Apr 2017, 19:04

He had enough time to raise the flag, enough for Williams to take a few touches and make a short run before slotting it past the keeper. As I say i'm not sure about the decision, I couldn't see, but the delay between the first touch and the flag going up seemed excessive and unusual to me.


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Post by Plymouth Gull » 17 Apr 2017, 19:11

It took about two minutes from the ball hitting the net to the goal being disallowed. My own opinion is that it was offside, but the manner of the decision was plain bizarre.

Re the net - the keeper pushed Young through the net, which caused the altercation with the fan.

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