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by westyorkshiregull » 05 Nov 2017, 21:42

Wraysburygull wrote:
05 Nov 2017, 16:10
Some great stuff on here.
Does anyone remember when MOTD has just the 1 game and around 1968 I reckon, it was us! A table topping match at Plainmoor against Bury, and we won 3-0. Stood in a packed Babbacombe End.We were on again a couple of years later v Fulham, winning again.
I think our decline can be traced back as far as those times. John Bond buggered off to Bournemouth and took half the team with him. 10000 crowds became 5000 almost overnight it seemed to me,and the rest is history I guess.
Don’t know whether there was a general deckin in gates at that time but ours seemed to drop through the floor .

Seen some still pictures of that match of the day event , but I would imagine the video does not exist any more. What golden material that would be. Did anyone on here actually watch it on t.v.? How many cameras were there, the picture i saw was the of the pop side and the tv platform on top on the roof. Can anyone tell me was that platform there just for that game ? I nearly had footage from plainmoor from the 1970s and all sorts but I've said in other threads the availability of it was taken out my hands. I'm going to get back in the case tomorrow as I've a day off work. The history section on TFF is amazing but i would love this forum to also have a history section to do justice to yesterday. I could read all day long posts about anything about any of our history. what we need is some golden exhibets on here to really get the interest going. There is not much on there but search westyorkshiregull on YouTube and those torquay videos are the ones i used to buy of that bloke who used to fil. Matches. He was called Brian and I'm not sure if he is still doing business as his website is now shut down. He lived on Marnham road and did media stuff to do with recording , editing ECT back in the day. He told me his first game was the Crewe 87 game and after that , I assume the next season the club asked him if he could film games for the manager to use in his training the following week. I used to buy the tapes off him. Remember him anyone ?
Has anyone any old school video footage. I'm sure many would love too see it , if they have I'll happy pay postage and would edit it on laptop and upload it if they would like to share it online ?
Those crowds we used to get as quoted above , makes you wonder why the support did drop like it did. Maybe the introduction of live games on tv? , people working weekends? , team doing worse ? Looks like other clubs same thing aswell. But some clubs increase over the years.
2000 seems good these days but even on my time during parts of the 80s and 90s we could pull 2500 plus on a reasonable regular pattern. To be fair when we were playing better. The 88/89 season was only few thousand and a bit some games but look at Wembley in the sherpa van trophy , I'm sure we took 20000 plus there. The fans are there and people do care, not everyone but it's just a shame more don't make effort. Also I wonder if the club is attracting more younger fans as TORBAY must a percentage like me have moved away from the bay many years ago so don't attend many home games. I do only one or 2 home games and 6 or 7 away games. Difficult like many of us With family's and work commitments.

Memories of plainmoor

by Wraysburygull » 05 Nov 2017, 16:10

Some great stuff on here.
Does anyone remember when MOTD has just the 1 game and around 1968 I reckon, it was us! A table topping match at Plainmoor against Bury, and we won 3-0. Stood in a packed Babbacombe End.We were on again a couple of years later v Fulham, winning again.
I think our decline can be traced back as far as those times. John Bond buggered off to Bournemouth and took half the team with him. 10000 crowds became 5000 almost overnight it seemed to me,and the rest is history I guess.
Don’t know whether there was a general deckin in gates at that time but ours seemed to drop through the floor .

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by westyorkshiregull » 04 Nov 2017, 19:47

Amazing about that bit in front of grandstand. I wonder if it was because close to the dugout? Better view I doubt ?.
Sub section within a grandstand, guess like the 3 tier prices at big stadiums. Love to know more about this.

Those pictures are brill merse, the cow shed look like exactly what it sounds like. The atmosphere when we got 5 figure crowds must have been amazing. The way plainmoor has matured into what I would call a fantastic modern stadium is surperb. But these old grandstand hold many memories for many people. The mini stand was a massive part of my early supporting. A lot of kids with there dad's, and people smoking cigars and pipes , I can smell it now.
Remember back in them days , getting players autographs was something that was done. Do people do that any more? Not talking adults but the kids?. I used to jump the boarding from the mini stand and get players autographs. At my parents house I still have much stuff which next time I see them i will post some pictures. A autograph book with loram , Dobson, Kenny Allen, Matthew Elliot ECT , those blow up sherpa van trophy seagulls , them yellow flags ...all sorts more.

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by merse btpir » 04 Nov 2017, 13:30

westyorkshiregull wrote:
03 Nov 2017, 18:34
Wow that is amazing. The old cowshed I assume went across from either side and the mini stand erected in the middle. But why did the mini stand get built with still the bit of cow shed either side
This is not so; yes the Mini Sand was built directly behind the goal but to it's left was open wooden railway sleeper and red dirt terracing that used to stand under the part that collapsed under the weight of the 1963 snowfall.......until then the old structure had more or less stretched from corner flag to corner flag.

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The Cowshed
at the biggest it ever was


The remnants of the old Cow Shed still stood to it's right towards the grandstand until that too was pulled down and the Mini Stand was actually extended to either side to make it wider.

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The stand was a pre-fabricated structure made by a garage building company in Coventry and erected once delivered on site in 1967 and the old weed strewn earthen banking that had been between the back of the Cow Shed and the perimeter wall was removed and replaced by a tarmac and floodlit area with a weight shed underneath the new stand where we used to rain (as amateurs) in the evenings.

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by BlueandGold53 » 04 Nov 2017, 11:22

Best ever memories, standing in 'The Shed' watching the Northcott brothers Ernie Pym and of course Robin and his merry men. That Spurs game was just unbelievable, kids in the trees and running out of pasties. Thanks to all concerned. Remember Ben Street collecting the ball every time it was kicked out of the ground. Great times and consider myself lucky to have been there.

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by Plainmoor78 » 04 Nov 2017, 09:33

When I began going in the 70s the ground was unsegregated and you could go in the popular side, ellacombe end and babbacombe end from any of the turnstiles. However I seem to remember that in front of the grandstand was a kind of paddock which had a turnstile by the entrance to it and you had to cough up an extra 10 pence to enter.
Does anyone know why this was?, what was the extra attraction of watching the match from that spot?

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by westyorkshiregull » 03 Nov 2017, 23:18

Fantastic stuff. Jerry , that history is a surperb section on that forum and some of the exhibets are breath taken. I will make time in nest few week to upload some material that I have. Thanks for sharing that post. Our modern ground is fit for a long time, but many memory were made within these old grandstands. The mini stand was my first memory and holds so much history. I was one of those kids that banged away on the advertising boarding at front ! Anyone remember that.
Chunky that Crewe game brings a lot back , red hot day ....dust everywhere. Tense but thrilling 2nd half. Could have scored 6 we were awesome in 2nd half. Players ended up hero's. Boys turned into men that day

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by chunkygull » 03 Nov 2017, 23:08

Scott Brehaut wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 20:15
My first match was 25 March 2000 - a Devon derby v the Gargs at Plainmoor.

We lost 4-0 and I was distraught!! Stood in the popside (obviously!!) and sung myself hoarse, as is the norm when I attend football matches.

Things I remember about that day: we had an early injury to one of our forwards (name escapes me) and we lost the match after that incident, with the substitution making us lose our shape and then Plymouth scored fairly quickly after that, and then hammered home three more before shutting up shop for the rest of the game.

I stayed in a b&b and was taken to the game by Richard Hughes, after being picked up at Exeter airport by Alan (acetufc) - both used to post on Mervos site - Richard, as we know, works for the Herald now, and I have lost touch with Alan (as well as Richard.)

EDIT: injured player was Tony Bedeau.

Team for the day:
S. Jones, Paul Holmes, Wayne Thomas, Alex Watson, Lee Russell, Robbie Herrera, Chris Brandon, Brian Healy (c), Kevin Hill, Eiffon Williams, Tony Bedeau (replaced by M. Griffiths)
Unused subs Mick O’Brien, Steve Tully, Tom Stocco and Ryan Northmore.
Christ, I remember that game. Their forward McGregor I think it was, absolutely destroyed us. Did he get a hat trick?
Didnt Bedeau get badly fouled by a player who should have been sent off or did Bedeau get sent off. I remember something about it.

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by chunkygull » 03 Nov 2017, 23:03

westyorkshiregull wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 21:44
Surperb SNW. Bit before my time but would loved to have gone in the mini stand when it was terracing. Remember after the Crewe game in 1987 the players and Stuart Morgan came back out and celebrated with the fans. Can anyone tell me the last season it was used. I'm guessing around 1993
That Crewe match was my first and what a great memory it is. I remember when some of the celebrations died down there was quite a few of us went behind the mini stand and some of the players came out of the old portakabin dressing rooms supping cans of lager. No prizes for guessing 1 or 2 of them. :)

The new stand was open for the start of the 92-93 season. First time I sat in it was a league cup game vs Swindon. Glenn Hoddle was player manager and came on as sub.

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by Jerry » 03 Nov 2017, 19:36

westyorkshiregull wrote:
03 Nov 2017, 18:34
Wow that is amazing. The old cowshed I assume went across from either side and the mini stand erected in the middle. But why did the mini stand get built with still the bit of cow shed either side. When did the cow shed get built? How did the mini stand incorapate within that ?
Does anyone know who built the mini stand and how much it cost?

Sorry if it seems lazy , I've done massive amount of research at torquay library on occasions within the bay. Getting people first hand knowledge and account is surperb. Over time I've stuff to post I'm very limited with my time with work and wife !!!
From the excellent TFF history section:

"The first cover at the Ellacombe End came in the form of the so-called “cowshed” – a simple timber and corrugated iron structure built in 1928. The section nearest to the Popular Side collapsed under weight of snow at Christmas 1962. In 1967, the middle section was replaced by a new “mini-stand” which was later extended. In January 1971, the remainder of the cowshed was badly damaged by storms and demolished as it was now unsafe. In 1992, the mini-stand was demolished and replaced by the current family stand which incorporated a pub, restaurant and executive boxes."

http://torquayfans.boards.net/thread/11 ... -plainmoor

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by westyorkshiregull » 03 Nov 2017, 18:34

Wow that is amazing. The old cowshed I assume went across from either side and the mini stand erected in the middle. But why did the mini stand get built with still the bit of cow shed either side. When did the cow shed get built? How did the mini stand incorapate within that ?
Does anyone know who built the mini stand and how much it cost?

Sorry if it seems lazy , I've done massive amount of research at torquay library on occasions within the bay. Getting people first hand knowledge and account is surperb. Over time I've stuff to post I'm very limited with my time with work and wife !!!

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by Plainmoor78 » 03 Nov 2017, 07:48

westyorkshiregull wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 14:26


Before the benches were added what kind of supporter went in there ? Did kids go into the main grandstand ? Also the bit on either side of the mini stand where people stood when did that go ? When was the mini stand built ?
The mini stand regulars for the most part were teenagers and younger kids. Sometimes it got pretty boisterous in there. I can remember the left side/ right side rucks where the crowd would divide into two and then start chanting "left side/ right side" at each other, then rush together with much kicking of shins and stamping on feet.
Unfortunately you got the worst elements of our support in the mini stand. I can well remember the racist abuse aimed at black players including abuse aimed at Les Lawrence when he went through a patch of poor form.
I think I remember reading in a programme from 1974 that the mini stand was in part intended to provide a safe area for young fans to be in, but because of its location as a covered stand at one end of the pitch, it became a target for visiting hooligans.
Somebody may have to correct me on the following bit. I think the ministand was built in 1967 in the middle of the cow shed. In 1971 the remaining parts of the cowshed, either side of the ministand, were demolished, but this was before my time.

I have to say that I was disappointed when the ministand first became seated, then replaced by the all seater family stand because I think it affected the atmosphere at the ground. The best place to actually watch a game is from around the half way line, but most clubs have their most vocal support behind one goal which must be intimidating to the visiting defenders.

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by dannyrvtufc4life » 03 Nov 2017, 01:19

First match was in 2002 against Rochdale, drew 2-2. Sat in the family stand. The next year, my parents and I purchased season tickets for the old Grandstand, the blue seats. I remember the cushions that were given out from a cardboard box in the winter time because the seats were cold, those were the days! Move to the Popside in 2006. So many memories.

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by westyorkshiregull » 01 Nov 2017, 21:44

Surperb SNW. Bit before my time but would loved to have gone in the mini stand when it was terracing. Remember after the Crewe game in 1987 the players and Stuart Morgan came back out and celebrated with the fans. Can anyone tell me the last season it was used. I'm guessing around 1993.

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by SuperNickyWroe » 01 Nov 2017, 15:59

westyorkshiregull wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 14:26
Plainmoor78 wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 08:33
If I remember correctly the mini stand was just concrete steps with crush barriers. I believe the benching was added after the loss of seating in the old grandstand after the 1985 fire.
Also from about 1980 the mini stand had a fence erected in front of it. This was an absurd decision because the catalyst for it was a pitch invasion by Cardiff yobs from the away end.
Ok interesting. I don't really remember the fire as I'm sure I started going the season that followed it. I remember the mini stand as what I call the family stand as it is still now. Before the benches were added what kind of supporter went in there ? Did kids go into the main grandstand ? Also the bit on either side of the mini stand where people stood when did that go ? When was the mini stand built ?

Any of you guys know and or remember any of this information ?

Amazing people remember there first game. I must admit I don't remember it as was young but do remember the kit very well which is why I know what season. Remember mark loram very well as he played for my dad's mate at brixham villa and my dad always said that he was far too good playing for torquay united. Magician of a footballer and it's a shame the younger fans will not have seen him
the mini-stand was concrete with crash/safety barriers in the 1970's. I started standing on it around 1976/7, it was a fab view!
my first home game was Easter Monday 1975 when Torquay beat Chester 3-0, and I was stood on what is now the popside.
Happy Days....

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