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If GI fail getting the freehold...

by Gullscorer » 20 May 2017, 21:38

threelittlepiglets wrote:
20 May 2017, 12:20
How on earth is an offer to meet and talk 'piss poor' and why do I want trust from anyone on this forum? I am simply using the forum to comment on club issues and give my point of view.
Have a great weekend.
:goodpost:

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by lucy6lucy » 19 May 2017, 21:22

threelittlepiglets wrote:
19 May 2017, 14:34
lucy6lucy wrote:
17 May 2017, 20:41
threelittlepiglets wrote:
17 May 2017, 19:09


Meaning??
No one, trusts you on this forum. Your posts are very suspicious along with your appearance on this forum. Does that help
I am not here to gain your trust, as I said you are welcome to meet face to face to talk
What are you trying to gain then if it's not trust? The plot thickens. If your prepared to depart with 60 litres of unleaded I will happily meet up with you in Wigan. Your responses are piss poor

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by merse btpir » 19 May 2017, 11:12

KeithMalone wrote:
19 May 2017, 10:37
I presume Mel Hayman (TUFC Financial Controller) is related to Ian Hayman who has been involved with the club for many years. Why is she sitting still, not doing anything whilst GI posture for position on obtaining the freehold? Surely it is apparent that it is detrimental to the club that she has family ties to? Or is she in with Phillips and co and riding the gravy train? The latter would be understandable if she was badly off but being a qualified accountant I would be surprised if she is struggling to get by
She most certainly is related; being the daughter of Ian Hayman who is a partner in the Paignton accountancy practice of John Wain & Co, Paignton......

Ian of course has been a director on the boards of Mike Bateson, Chris Roberts and Alex Rowe over a great many years. It has been put to me that Mel was instrumental in the £200 season ticket deal last season at a time when cash flow for the club was virtually non existent and there was a real emergency in getting through to the start of the season just passed. Whether that is fact or not I have to leave for others more knowledgeable to confirm or deny.

What is for sure is that she and Steve Breed were at considerable odds with one another and we know that Breed departed the scene on the decision of Dave Phillips in April 2016.

Strange that she should have been back in the fold really, as she was one of those made redundant by Phillips and his board on taking over the club and that she then 'appeared' to come back on board at the same time that the first tranche of capital injection was received from Gaming International. Coincidence or none of our business? But I happen to think those most important of stakeholders ~ the supporters ~ are due an explanation; just as they are too over the fact that Ian Hayman is now listed in the match day programme as a 'Lifelong President' along with Mervyn Benny and Thea Bristow although not on the club's OS nor can I recall this ever being announced formally to the public.

Image
That's Mel Hayman:
sitting directly behind Clarke Osborne & Thea Bristow

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by KeithMalone » 19 May 2017, 10:37

merse btpir wrote:
18 May 2017, 19:59
Evidence that I have suggests that there is a serious attempt being made to run a football club and re-establish the professional standards associated with that status ~ the hard work being carried out on the youth development front being a point in question and it is for that reason that my belief is that if GI are denied the freehold, they will seek too move the business on by way of sale.

.......and I don't believe there would be no takers either!
I really hope the above is true, however history suggests that this bunch tend not to move on without leaving a path of destruction. We as a fanbase must stay strong and ensure we do everything to make life as unpleasant as possible surrounding any moves they (GI) make which are detrimental to the club.

The question I have is: I presume Mel Hayman (TUFC Financial Controller) is related to Ian Hayman who has been involved with the club for many years. Why is she sitting still, not doing anything whilst GI posture for position on obtaining the freehold? Surely it is apparent that it is detrimental to the club that she has family ties to? Or is she in with Phillips and co and riding the gravy train? The latter would be understandable if she was badly off but being a qualified accountant I would be surprised if she is struggling to get by

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by westyorkshiregull » 18 May 2017, 21:52

merse btpir wrote:
18 May 2017, 19:59
Evidence that I have suggests that there is a serious attempt being made to run a football club and re-establish the professional standards associated with that status ~ the hard work being carried out on the youth development front being a point in question and it is for that reason that my belief is that if GI are denied the freehold, they will seek too move the business on by way of sale.

.......and I don't believe there would be no takers either!
Good bad or indifferent ?

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by lucy6lucy » 18 May 2017, 21:25

merse btpir wrote:
18 May 2017, 19:59
Evidence that I have suggests that there is a serious attempt being made to run a football club and re-establish the professional standards associated with that status ~ the hard work being carried out on the youth development front being a point in question and it is for that reason that my belief is that if GI are denied the freehold, they will seek too move the business on by way of sale.

.......and I don't believe there would be no takers either!

Well that's refreshing news

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by merse btpir » 18 May 2017, 19:59

Evidence that I have suggests that there is a serious attempt being made to run a football club and re-establish the professional standards associated with that status ~ the hard work being carried out on the youth development front being a point in question and it is for that reason that my belief is that if GI are denied the freehold, they will seek too move the business on by way of sale.

.......and I don't believe there would be no takers either!

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by Fonda » 17 May 2017, 20:55

threelittlepiglets wrote:
17 May 2017, 19:12
Fonda wrote:
17 May 2017, 12:04
I've no idea who you are, but if (as has been insinuated by others) you are in some way involved with the chancers in charge of the club, that sounds an awful lot like a veiled threat?

For what it's worth, I'd rather the club was dissolved and start again 10 levels below where it currently is than let a prospector use it as a vehicle for his own gain. Just my opinion though.

I stand on half way line Popside. How on earth is my post a threat?

I welcome anyone to come and talk with me, I am nothing to do with GI!!

Now with all due respect **** off!!
That's quite an over-reaction. I made it very clear I didn't know who you were, the word 'if' is very obvious. Others have been much more forceful in their opinions of who you might be, without anything like that response. I'll assume I just caught you at a bad moment. Oh, and writing 'with all due respect' does not provide the freedom to tell someone to **** off. You might want to watch that, some might be offended by it.

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by lucy6lucy » 17 May 2017, 20:41

threelittlepiglets wrote:
17 May 2017, 19:09
lucy6lucy wrote:
17 May 2017, 11:13
Only you know the answer to this.
Meaning??
No one, trusts you on this forum. Your posts are very suspicious along with your appearance on this forum. Does that help

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by Neal » 17 May 2017, 20:11

Fonda wrote:
17 May 2017, 12:04
I've no idea who you are, but if (as has been insinuated by others) you are in some way involved with the chancers in charge of the club, that sounds an awful lot like a veiled threat?

For what it's worth, I'd rather the club was dissolved and start again 10 levels below where it currently is than let a prospector use it as a vehicle for his own gain. Just my opinion though.
:goodpost:

Some good postings on this thread!!

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by Neal » 17 May 2017, 20:10

Plainmoor78 wrote:
17 May 2017, 12:27
The important thing to realise is this. If GI fail to get the freehold of plainmoor then there is still somewhere for a football team representing the town of Torquay to play.
It doesn't matter if it is TUFC or a reincarnation, the fact is we will still have a football ground. If we fail to protect the ground then I cannot see professional football ever returning to the bay.
As for a new stadium, I honestly do not think that will ever happen; anyway there is nothing wrong with plainmoor that couldn't be fixed with a bit of imaginative business know how.
:goodpost:

Spot on!!

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by westyorkshiregull » 17 May 2017, 19:52

threelittlepiglets wrote:
17 May 2017, 19:14
merse btpir wrote:
17 May 2017, 13:31
.......and so the predictable spectre of blackmail and threat come to play. Didn't take long did it!

What's the next one threelittlepiglets ~ the knock on the door? :|
I relish a face to face... to talk of course!


Bit pathetic whoever you are... clearly a troll or Clarke osborne / associate

Well we are the big bad wolves and contrary to that fairy tail we ARE going to blow your plans down.

END of piggy go stick that up your stout

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by merse btpir » 17 May 2017, 19:30

Plainmoor78 wrote:
17 May 2017, 18:04
Even if GI weren't the only possible buyers at the time.........
The last people who actually bought the club were the consortium with Alex Rowe as chairman who had no choice but to pay Mike Bateson what he was asking for his shareholding.

Since then it has been disposed of 'for £1' and now acquired in lieu of the inability of the board that carried out that transaction to repay Gaming International their injection of working capital.........GI did NOT buy Torquay United; they took possession of it!

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by Plainmoor78 » 17 May 2017, 19:15

gullpower wrote:
17 May 2017, 19:09
Nobody has mentioned the "T" word yet on this thread. I would but I might be labelled a militant again :nod:
I would wait and see what the outcome is before we start discussing community ownership again. It would be a whole new ball game and probably very different to last time when TUST were strung along by the old board and Pete Masters.

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by gullpower » 17 May 2017, 19:09

Nobody has mentioned the "T" word yet on this thread. I would but I might be labelled a militant again :nod:

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